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Post  Guest on Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:29 am

Hi IBC.

Summer is here and it's phempis time once again.









Have to deal with some woods...









Done major works for the day... detailing next.

















The tree is sitting naturally in a white rock, and I wanted to highlight the clasping and twisting of the shari onto the rock. this means more exposure of the rock base and wood carving at the base.



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jun  Smile

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Post  efishn on Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:21 pm

Hi Jun,
great material beautiful job  ThumbsUp 
I wish we had this species here, it looks awesome .
keep "bombing" us with your trees  thumbs up 

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Post  kauaibonsai on Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:50 am

nice, jun.

and I thought I liked BIG

best wishes, sam

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Post  Guest on Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:28 am

Thanks Sam and Efi.

here is more detailing works...





Juniper style deadwood seems not appropriate for tropical trees so I am trying to give more rotten looks to the wood, as what a troical deadwood should look like IMHO.





and give more shari to the tree trunk and the left side area




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Post  Guest on Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:35 am

black and white to see what it might look like when aged.

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Post  Todd Ellis on Thu Mar 06, 2014 1:24 pm

I love your work Jun! Beautiful tree!

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Post  Tona on Thu Mar 06, 2014 2:52 pm

Hey Jun,
Great tree!! I always look forward to your posts!!
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Post  Bazik on Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:56 am

beautifull tree indeed,

keep up the goood works


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Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:00 pm

L.L.B,

I look at your effort and the size of that monster, and then I laugh, when I remember you teasing me about my pemphist twiglet [ which is due to be shipped to the sea side to grow ] after I take about 10 cuttings.

I find your concept of - rotted wood - an excellent idea, and a good move away from the juniper envy one often sees on tropical trees.

You will see my effort in 10 years or so, but I doubt if it will have rotted wood.
Much thanks for the inspiration.
Stay Well.
Khaimraj

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Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:03 pm

Efi,

look up Suriana maritima, grows in Miami.
Perhaps you can get some seed.
Later.
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Post  evanB on Tue May 20, 2014 9:00 pm

Wow, I never knew about this species.  It should grow perfectly in my climate.  Great tree and thanks for sharing!

edit: after some research, I've read that this species needs to be sprayed/watered with saltwater from time to time. Can you confirm this Jun?
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Post  evanB on Tue May 20, 2014 9:14 pm

Khaimraj Seepersad wrote:Efi,

look up Suriana maritima, grows in Miami.
Perhaps you can get some seed.
Later.
Khaimraj

This is a completely different species, no?

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Post  Guest on Wed May 21, 2014 8:47 am

evmibo wrote:
Khaimraj Seepersad wrote:Efi,

look up Suriana maritima, grows in Miami.
Perhaps you can get some seed.
Later.
Khaimraj

This is a completely different species, no?


yes, different.

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Post  Guest on Wed May 21, 2014 8:58 am

evmibo wrote:Wow, I never knew about this species.  It should grow perfectly in my climate.  Great tree and thanks for sharing!

edit: after some research, I've read that this species needs to be sprayed/watered with saltwater from time to time.  Can you confirm this Jun?
Thanks


Yes.

I am have to say that this is a very difficult species even for most of us in the tropics, even the most seasoned bonsai practitioner lost branches and sometimes trees, and sometimes even the whole Pemphis garden ,,,matured and expensive ones.



Like this garden, which used to have thousand world class Pemphis acidula tree...mostly dead now.  Crying or Very sad  We managed to rescue several dozens.



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Post  jsonacob on Wed May 21, 2014 10:52 am

Wow! Where is that beautiful garden located? Is it open for public viewing?


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Post  keylyn on Wed May 21, 2014 12:35 pm

i know you can lose a pemphis acidula branch from getting overwhelmed by mites that can stay undetected from unwary owner while sucking the tree branch dry. what is stopping others if one can grow p. acidula and not err?

thousands of p. acidula poached... greedy, greedy... i would take half a dozen if i have the buying power of this man. Evil or Very Mad 

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Post  Guest on Thu May 22, 2014 2:27 am

keylyn wrote:i know you can lose a pemphis acidula branch from getting overwhelmed by mites that can stay undetected from unwary owner while sucking the tree branch dry. what is stopping others if one can grow p. acidula and not err?

thousands of p. acidula poached... greedy, greedy... i would take half a dozen if i have the buying power of this man. Evil or Very Mad 


It is not the mites. It is more on the wrong techniques. We are doing it the wrong way. The tree is nice for several years but slowly it is dying after 6 years.

The person who owned this garden, I believe is not greedy. He is in fact one of the nicest and the most honest man doing bonsai in the Philippines, He is one of the pioneer of Pemphis bonsai in the country. that is why he has that much collection, most of the trees that were lost in our remote islands went to foreign countries during the 80's and the early 90's.

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Post  keylyn on Thu May 22, 2014 6:42 am

http://ibonsaiclub.forumotion.com/t9553-pemphis-acidula-collected-5-months-ago
this is probably what you're implying.

fact is that removing thousands of well-established trees from the wild brews destruction. it's also greed that plied and prompted this man to his position.
greed seems doable-edged.


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Post  Guest on Thu May 22, 2014 8:28 am

keylyn wrote:http://ibonsaiclub.forumotion.com/t9553-pemphis-acidula-collected-5-months-ago
this is probably what you're implying.

fact is that removing thousands of well-established trees from the wild brews destruction. it's also greed that plied and prompted this man to his position.
greed seems doable-edged.



You said the same to Jong in his Murraya thread. even though it is just couple of old murraya materials? but I don't see you doing the same comment to Japanese, Taiwanese, European materials which were gathered the same way.
BTW in that thread, murraya is just garden trees and not forest trees or critically endangered species...are you sure you are in the right forum?

I'll be happy to see you discussing or showing some trees.

regards,
jun  Smile 



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Post  Guest on Thu May 22, 2014 8:46 am

Keylyn,

I saw some pictures that you contributed to Walter Palls thread... they seems to be very old too? were they all yamadori? I am sure they all are.

Double standard on your part?

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Post  keylyn on Thu May 22, 2014 9:07 am

our people seem very explicit in their blunders.

i have a few small-mini yamadori poached you could count on two hands (mostly weedy coppices that can become invasive as alien plants and very few p. acidula). i never said i'm not a part of these blunders. if i rate myself from 1-10 as a good person with 10 being the highest, i'd give myself 2-3.

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Post  Guest on Thu May 22, 2014 9:39 am

Your judgement on yourself on how bad you are is base on your own perception.  
if one thief stole a chicken and another thief stole the whole chicken farm..both of them are still considered thieves. and not anyone of them is in the position to lecture other thieves about immorality of stealing.

Just enjoy bonsai and stop judging other people that you do not know of.

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Post  kevin stoeveken on Thu May 22, 2014 7:23 pm

jun wrote:if one thief stole a chicken and another thief stole the whole chicken farm..both of them are still considered thieves. and not anyone of them is in the position to lecture other thieves about immorality of stealing.

well said Jun...

after all, we are all thieves of one type or another...  Twisted Evil 

trouble is, most of don't even realize it  scratch  Wink 

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Post  rolex dragon on Fri May 23, 2014 10:17 am

nice work jun
 Very Happy 
awesome

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