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Post  sidiao on Sat Feb 08, 2014 2:17 pm

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Post  Todd Ellis on Sat Feb 08, 2014 2:38 pm

Stunning piece of material. I am curious why the foliage/design appears to be trained, opposite the flow of the trunk. It looks like the top branch is dictating the "flow", versus the main trunk... thoughts? scratch 

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Post  Robert Steven on Sat Feb 08, 2014 3:11 pm

Todd Ellis wrote:Stunning piece of material. I am curious why the foliage/design appears to be trained, opposite the flow of the trunk. It looks like the top branch is dictating the "flow", versus the main trunk... thoughts? scratch 

This is how to create dramatic movement. Wonderful Master Cheng !

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Post  kauaibonsai on Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:55 pm

magnificent as always, master cheng.

best wishes, sam

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Post  Todd Ellis on Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:25 pm

This is a great learning experience for me... Then the large jins are really dictating the flow (or movement of the tree)..., and the foliage is supporting this

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Post  sidiao on Sun Feb 09, 2014 12:56 am

kauaibonsai wrote:magnificent as always,  master cheng.

best wishes,  sam

Thank you, Sam

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Post  Floris on Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:20 pm

Perfect, like that deadwood!

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Post  hawthorn on Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:43 pm

Sweet juniper!

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Post  Zhan Fu Lin on Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:54 pm

The best good teacher, very honored to be your guide

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Post  Todd Ellis on Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:01 pm

I am amazed, awed really, by how you create your deadwood effects; jin, shari, uro, etc. It must take many days (time) to create. Beautiful work indeed!

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Post  ShunFeng Wang on Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:14 pm

God like!

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Post  sidiao on Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:11 pm

Todd Ellis wrote:I am amazed, awed really, by how you create your deadwood effects; jin, shari, uro, etc. It must take many days (time) to create. Beautiful work indeed!
Hi, Todd Ellis.
In my website, there are many work to explain how to sidiao the shari.

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Post  Todd Ellis on Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:15 pm

Thank you. Does your blog have "English" option for the text?

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Post  sidiao on Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:24 pm

Todd Ellis wrote:Thank you. Does your blog have "English" option for the text?

Todd Ellis, Sorry, my english is poor. so my english version blog didn't have more text. There are many photo about creation flow


SiDiao (English) http://www.sidiao.com/index_e.htm

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Post  Todd Ellis on Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:07 am

Thank you Sidiao. I will look and learn  Very Happy 

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Post  cosmos on Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:17 am

Todd Ellis wrote:Stunning piece of material. I am curious why the foliage/design appears to be trained, opposite the flow of the trunk. It looks like the top branch is dictating the "flow", versus the main trunk... thoughts? scratch 

Flow is given by various means. The upper part of the tachigari, the long jin on the left, and the direction of most branches all point to a left-sided flow overpowering the right-sided flow of the rest of the trunk.

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Post  Todd Ellis on Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:30 pm

Yes, I see this dynamic and realize that my original comment on the "flow" was based on a "formula mentality" ... what was I thinking?! Again, a learning curve for me; the tree is stunning!  Very Happy 

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Post  Vance Wood on Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:38 pm

What will it cost me to be honest if I have something critical to say about this tree?

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Post  my nellie on Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:45 pm

It should not cost anything, to my opinion.
Everyone is free to express one's opinion/comment/valuation. Or one is not?  Very Happy 

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Post  Vance Wood on Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:00 pm

my nellie wrote:It should not cost anything, to my opinion.
Everyone is free to express one's opinion/comment/valuation. Or one is not?  Very Happy 

I believe the wood work on the trunk is magnificent but the over-all design of the bonsai is, in my uneducated and ignorant opinion, not worth the praise it is receiving.  If I were to post this same tree as my work I could expect many of you to tell me just what you think.  But it seems that because of who posted the tree and who reinforced and supported the concept of movement has kind of cowed honest assessment of the actual tree. The movement on this tree gives me motion sickness. I guess that's OK but it is kind of counter to most concepts of bonsai design.

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Post  raregog on Fri Feb 21, 2014 3:09 pm

Have i missed something, No image or,photograph ?

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Post  Vance Wood on Fri Feb 21, 2014 3:27 pm

raregog wrote: Have i missed something, No image or,photograph ?

Return to the first page of this thread the 3 imagesd and you will see the starting raw material, a couple of drawings and the first initial styling.

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Post  Vance Wood on Fri Feb 21, 2014 4:20 pm

With all due respects being critical of an image is not good enough if you are lacking some sort of solution.  Given that there is a lot going for this tree and perhaps the design was not as questionable as I originally thought it dawned on me, after thinking through my original complaint, that maybe the planted position was more to blame than anything else other than my incompetence.


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Post  raregog on Fri Feb 21, 2014 5:12 pm

My thanks, now up to speed with the situation. Thank you, just for info Half a dozen pots smashed thank heavens they were cheeps,
more important no damage to the trees. Fingers crossed for he rest of the winter We have snow and ice to come???

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Post  Lee Brindley on Fri Feb 21, 2014 5:51 pm

Vance Wood wrote:
my nellie wrote:It should not cost anything, to my opinion.
Everyone is free to express one's opinion/comment/valuation. Or one is not?  Very Happy 

I believe the wood work on the trunk is magnificent but the over-all design of the bonsai is, in my uneducated and ignorant opinion, not worth the praise it is receiving.  If I were to post this same tree as my work I could expect many of you to tell me just what you think.  But it seems that because of who posted the tree and who reinforced  and supported the  concept of movement has kind of cowed honest assessment of the actual tree.  The movement on this tree gives me motion sickness.  I guess that's OK but it is kind of counter to most concepts of bonsai design.

I am ignorant enough to be unfamiliar with the owner of this tree and so hold no biased. For me the movement of the tree in its current position is exciting and brings it to life. Your suggested angle appears lifeless and boring to my eye, even though it follows the "rules" by bringing the apex in line with the base.

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