styling a sage (Salvia officinalis)

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styling a sage (Salvia officinalis)

Post  Bonsaiteen on Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:43 am

I need ad vice on how to make it appear older.
here it is ... hopefully



this branch is kinda weird

I like the movement but it seems like the tree is still young.
just wondering if someone could help  confused 
Andrew

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Re: styling a sage (Salvia officinalis)

Post  JimLewis on Sun Feb 02, 2014 1:33 am

The base and lower trunk look plenty old. I think if you shortened the branches a LOT, you'd get a smaller, but older-looking plant.

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Post  Bonsaiteen on Sun Feb 02, 2014 1:54 am

I just dont know if it will backbud.
thank you for the advice,
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Post  JimLewis on Sun Feb 02, 2014 3:46 am

I don't either, but it is an herb. It should.

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Post  Twisted Trees on Sun Feb 02, 2014 7:10 pm

Bonsaiteen wrote:I need ad vice on how to make it appear older.
here it is ... hopefully

I like the movement but it seems like the tree is still young.
 just wondering if someone could help  confused 
      Andrew
Cut  the bottom branch back to about 3-4 inches from it's base and see if it back buds.  I think that branch needs to go anyway.  Take the top branch closest to the trunk, the one pointing straight up, and bend it back to the trunk base.  Make it wiggle and undulate.  You probably need to wrap the branch so it will not break as I remember sage being brittle. Cut the rest of it off.

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Post  Twisted Trees on Sun Feb 02, 2014 7:22 pm

Here's a crude virt.


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Post  JimLewis on Sun Feb 02, 2014 7:34 pm

Or even . . .



. . . with a change of planting angle.

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Post  Bonsaiteen on Sun Feb 02, 2014 7:56 pm

actually this was half a plant. it was planted three years ago. when I dug it up (or pulled it out) I divided the thing. that's why there's deadwood.

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Post  Twisted Trees on Sun Feb 02, 2014 8:39 pm

JimLewis wrote:Or even . . .



. . . with a change of planting angle.
Assuming it will bud back there. If it buds back i'd chop it even shorter. I did the virt to suggest what could be done with what is there.

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Re: styling a sage (Salvia officinalis)

Post  Bonsaiteen on Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:37 pm

this is another branch (circled area)

an this is from the back

again thanks for all the advice


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Post  Bonsaiteen on Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:46 pm

Twisted Trees wrote:Here's a crude virt.


sometimes I wish certain plants were that flexable. sages aren't the wood would crack instead of bend, like rhododendron.

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Re: styling a sage (Salvia officinalis)

Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Mon Feb 03, 2014 10:15 am

Andrew,

could you locate an expendable sage, and experiment on that instead?

Secondly, fertilise for a month, say late spring and then attempt to cut back on on one branch.
Get it to grow well first, and then attempt a cut.

What about grafting ?

Best of luck and just take your time.
Later.
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Re: styling a sage (Salvia officinalis)

Post  mumra on Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:18 pm

I believe that sage do back bud but as stated I would confirm by trying it on something in the garden which is expendable. I can confirm that thyme doesn't back bud unless there is foliage on the branch, and even then it is not always guaranteed.

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Re: styling a sage (Salvia officinalis)

Post  Bonsaiteen on Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:11 pm


here's how it looks now.

I need a branch there

the upper branch is rooting in water right now.

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Post  Fred-4-u on Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:08 am

it doesn t back bud to my experience

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Post  Bonsaiteen on Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:11 am

I think it's funny that whenever I read that a plant usually won't backbud, it backbuds.
lavender normally won't backbud normally, but the same lavender will when it's growing vigorusly.

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