New year's Seki display

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New year's Seki display

Post  dick benbow on Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:25 pm

Typical Japanese, scroll sets the theme of a new day rising, Ikebana uses bamboo, pine, and plum. Happy (western) New Year...

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Re: New year's Seki display

Post  dick benbow on Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:54 am

thought I'd include some helpful criticism I received from my instructor, David de Groot, Curator of the Weyerhaeuser Bonsai exhibit
who studied in Japan with masters of display.

Scroll placement and subject matter is fine. ikebana should be centered on a table of proper size. The present table, is too ornate and subject placement on the table is more for kusamono or tenpai subjects then the main subject matter.

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Re: New year's Seki display

Post  Kakejiku on Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:00 am

dick benbow wrote:thought I'd include some helpful criticism I received from my instructor, who studied in Japan with masters of display.


Not sure if you are trying to arrange in Rikka, Shoka, or Jiyuka style Question ...Is the Bamboo, Ume or the Matsu the Shushi? Because I can not determine which is the Shushi, it is difficult for me to identify the Shin branch, Soe branch and Hikae branch...Maybe providing the Kakeizu would better allow the viewer to interpret these in your ikebana...

This is not a three point bonsai display, It is an Ikebana display. Why don't you just center the pot on the shoku, the shoku on the seki, and place all this directly centered under the kakejiku and snap another pic for us...

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Re: New year's Seki display

Post  Kakejiku on Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:03 am

Kakejiku wrote:
dick benbow wrote:thought I'd include some helpful criticism I received from my instructor, who studied in Japan with masters of display.


Not sure if you are trying to arrange in Rikka, Shoka, or Jiyuka style Question ...Is the Bamboo, Ume or the Matsu the Shushi? Because I can not determine which is the Shushi, it is difficult for me to identify the Shin branch, Soe branch and Hikae branch...Maybe providing the Kakeizu would better allow the viewer to interpret these in your ikebana...

This is not a three point bonsai display, It is an Ikebana display. Why don't you just center the pot on the shoku, the shoku on the seki, and place all this directly centered under the kakejiku and snap another pic for us...

Oh...that's right I don't live in the real world, I live only in a fantasy world about things I have read in books... Evil or Very Mad 

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Re: New year's Seki display

Post  dick benbow on Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:44 pm

the first answer, I would normally say thank-you for your learned response. I'd admitt no ikebana courses
so i did the best to garner the correct "ingredients" and place them in what I thought was a pleasing arraingement.

The second response, I don't know what or who or why someone is being slandered about book learning?

I think it's pretty clear, from the post about Kakejiku, where I encourage the poster to seek your council, that I have just respect for your abilities when it comes to this area of display.



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Re: New year's Seki display

Post  Kakejiku on Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:43 pm

[quote="dick benbow"]The second response, I don't know what or who or why someone is being slandered about book learning?[/quote]

Not directed at you just generally why I am discouraged from posting on this forum any longer...particularly when I lived in Chikuhou and Fukuoka prefecture for about 1 year of my life...
[url=http://ibonsaiclub.forumotion.com/t14275p15-which-scrolls-would-you-choose-and-why]http://ibonsaiclub.forumotion.com/t14275p15-which-scrolls-would-you-choose-and-why[/url]
Re: Which scroll(s) Would you Choose and Why?

Post nekotoban on Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:52 pm

Kakejiku wrote:

nekotoban wrote:
#2 Magpie is not common bird in Japan they only exist limited area of Hokkaido and north Kyusyu. However, I can see them where I live and personally I like the scroll the best. It harmonized the display. I would go for this.

山鵲は秋の季節は雅道山本流教本116ページ
Reference for Sanjaku as Autumn Season bird is Gadou Yamamto Ryuu Kyouhon pg. 116.

You believe in a book, I believe in the real world. Fair enough.


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Re: New year's Seki display

Post  dick benbow on Tue Dec 31, 2013 4:35 pm

As suggested I centered the ikebana, changed the table, and hoped I'd come a little closer to being correct. thanks Jonathon!

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Re: New year's Seki display

Post  Kakejiku on Tue Dec 31, 2013 7:00 pm

Looks more clean with the empty space on either side. Also like how you allow the bamboo to go into the Chi (bottom cloth portion) of the scroll but not into the painting...Seen a lot of displays lately from America/Europe that have the main display piece go into the painting on the scroll....seems counter intuitive to the primary rule to provide for the main piece (bonsai/sanyasou/ikebana) to become the focal point of the display. When people mix the painting with the tree, I can never separate in my mind's eye which should be the focal point of the display.




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