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Post  Guest Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:12 pm

Hi IBC.

I have a wonderful short and stocky casuarina material with natural tapering body, well healed cut wounds and nice nebari (buried for now under the soil)
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I met Nacho Marin (A well rounded talented artist from Venezuela) in Malaysia and I was inspired by some of his sketches I decided to use one of his design ideas for this tree which is workable for this particular material...with some variation of course.
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....what do you think.

regards,
jun Smile study

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Post  Guest Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:34 pm

Hi Jun

fantastick material......and it looks like the drawing too.
I am not at all kean on the top, looks very artificial to me.....Will someone please show a photo of a real tree with a top like this, just to prove me wrong...I will then again be happy to have learned something new Smile.

Kind regards Yvonne

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Post  Andrei Darusenkov Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:38 pm

Jun, this kind of an apex (actually without an apex) is to found among pines (Pinus silvestris) in the Far North, where apparently the snow pushes apex branches down so that green clouds are below the the branches themselves. Those pines are of course rather slender with an image that differs substantially from your stocky casuarina.... If I find a photo I'll post it...

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Post  Russell Coker Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:41 pm


Yvonne Graubaek wrote: I am not at all kean on the top, looks very artificial to me.....

Me too!!! I can see doing this if the material is unsalvagable otherwise, but you have plenty of branches to work with. I guess I see this as a way to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, but what you're starting with is already a silk purse!

I guess if you're hell bent on doing something different for the sake of doing something different...
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Post  Eastern Bonsai Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:26 pm

[quote="Russell Coker"]


I guess I see this as a way to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear!

...[quote]
lol! This made me laugh, never heard that saying before. lol!

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Post  JimLewis Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:16 pm

Hmmm . . . it dates back to at least 1579 -- but you don't hear it that often anymore, tho I heard it a lot when I was a kid (back in 1580). <g>
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Post  MrFancyPlants Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:16 pm

Although I agree that the material is worthy of a more traditional styling, I also think that this is a fun way to place a sacrifice branch as the taper becomes more realistic over the next few years.
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Post  Russell Coker Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:46 pm



Abe, I bet we say all kinds of things down here you've never heard before!
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Post  moyogijohn Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:36 am

JUN,, First love the trunk !! my opion please,,make the tree upright,,don,t hide that very good trunk.!! remember i know nothing about these trees but you create some good trees.. take care john

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Post  john5555leonard Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:48 am

hi jun, great trunk, i love it but don,t hide it and don,t bend the apex down you don,t have to. i am from yorkshire and we use the silk purse out of a sows ear phrase as well, but thats not a sows ear. regards john

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Post  sirius Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:41 am

Very nice Jun, thanks for sharing, but a lot of time to make idea come true.
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Post  Todd Ellis Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:35 pm

Jun,
I like your tree and I like the rendering. I say go for it; nothing gained nothing learned as some would say. That type of styling is challenging to grow. I have a couple of trees with a "pulled down apex" and believe they will become nice trees. There are many penjing which do not adhere to traditional tree "styles" that are stunning. Your tree could make a beautiful cascade if you dropped the apex down (to cascade on the right hand side) to create the foliage masses below the roots in a long cascade pot. I would think this could be stunning with a casuarina.
Have fun!
Todd
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Post  Khaimraj Seepersad Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:58 pm

Jun,

the trunk is so beautiful, all you need is a few branches to compliment it [the trunk].
No need for an over-design.
Later.
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Post  Andre Beaurain Sat Jun 30, 2012 9:18 am

Ver very nice indeed, I also say go for it JUn, your drawing is beautifull! Have definately seen trees like that in nature.

Dont know anything about Pigs or Purses! rabbit
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Post  pongsatorn.k Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:11 am

very nice Very Happy , especial the drawing What a Face
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Post  newzealandteatree Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:21 am

Jun, congratulation for having that piece of fantastic bonsai stock. It has the potential to be turned into a world class bonsai without resorting to exortic measures. I have always believe and support exploration and experimentation to push the boundaries of bonsai wider and deeper. The bonsai universe will be much better and richer. However to experiment with such good material is to me extravagant. I know u have already made up your mind. So this is just my thought.
Cheers.

CJ
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Post  Guest Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:54 am

Thank you guys for all the comments...for the conservative and the more adventurous ones. we'll see in the future how it goes.

It can still go either way.

regards,
jun Smile

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Post  moyogijohn Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:28 am

JUN,, The drawing is beautiful !! Again i say,,make this one upright and don,t hide that great trunk !! use the drawing with another tree that the trunk is not so good.. only a opion so don,t get mad please.. good luck,,take care john

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Post  CraftyTanuki Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:49 am

Go with your drawing Jun, your style is incredible. Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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Post  Fox CWB Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:19 pm

Great tree,

I normally see casuarinas on parks and not in bonsai pots.
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Post  Guest Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:55 am

CraftyTanuki wrote:Go with your drawing Jun, your style is incredible. Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil


Thanks Mate!

regards,
jun Smile




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Post  Guest Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:56 am

Fox.

there are lot of casuarinas posted here in IBC, just search for it. what's good about it here is that they are in various training stages.


regards,
jun Smile

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Post  Guest Fri Jan 10, 2014 12:36 pm

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Just an update


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looks good front, don't you think so?
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New First and second branch. This is one of the good characteristic of a healthy casuarina. It will never stop in giving new shoots. even in the lower portion of old trunks.

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regards,
jun  Smile

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Post  gman Fri Jan 10, 2014 4:06 pm

Looking good Jun, thanks for the update.
At the beginning of this thread Yvonne asked to see a tree with that kind of top and I immediately thought of my collecting trips (above 5000') and found the attached photo, (photo taken from its side?).  As you can see that the top was bent over, broken and its main top is now along the ground....with a secondary major branch now reaching for the sky.  That tree (the mountain) see's about 30' of snow most years but I'm not sure that it equates to your local conditions.......maybe after a storm Very Happy 
Cheers from the great white north,
Graham
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