My vision of an airlayerd Pinus mugo from 2008

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Re: My vision of an airlayerd Pinus mugo from 2008

Post  Herbert A on Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:15 pm

yes, i took a ring of bark and use Sphagnummoss. No wire or something elese.

I tryed to airlayer 3 scott pines, but they dont make new roots on the stem. BUT you can airlayer the scott pines at the roots. The same as the European Larch (Larix decidua). Not on the stem but on the roots.

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Post  manumidam on Wed Aug 26, 2015 10:22 pm

thanks for the infos.

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Post  Herbert A on Mon Sep 07, 2015 8:59 pm

Hi
on Saturday i had the Workshop with Master Abe. Othmar Auer invited him to Brixen. As Student from Othmar Auer i was invited to this Workshop.


Master Kenishi Abe


The tree before starting.



The first work was to remove the old needles.


After removing the old needles the branches were wired.

The Result.




Hope you enjoy

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Post  Marco Giai-Coletti on Wed Sep 09, 2015 7:01 pm

Wow, your forethought is astounding.

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Post  Vance Wood on Sun Sep 20, 2015 11:48 pm

Nice work on this. How is it doing??

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Post  Herbert A on Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:41 pm

Hi Vance,
he´s doing well.

regards
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Post  Vance Wood on Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:02 pm

If you could share a bit more about the details in air layering this tree I would appreciate it. I grow a lot of Mugos and this aspect is somethng I need to know more about.

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Re: My vision of an airlayerd Pinus mugo from 2008

Post  Herbert A on Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:40 am

Hi Vance,

the technic to airlayer a Pinus mugo is really easy. Just remove a ring of bark, give Sphagnummoss around the cut and wrap it with plastic.

This is a other tree.



Two years later. Remove the moss before planting the tree in a pot.




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Post  Vance Wood on Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:21 pm

Thank You very much.  I did not realize it was quite that easy.  I am not too proud to admit there is something about this tree I don't know well.

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Post  marie1uk on Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:19 pm

Just a note to say that if you chop up the moss and mix with equal parts vermiculite then removing the moss is MUCH easier post separation - you won't need tweezers and a chopstick.

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Post  Herbert A on Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:21 am

Thats quite interresting. Dit you try this when you airlayered a tree in the mountains? I´m afraid that this mix does not hold enough water all the time. Because i don´t go in the mountains to water the trees.

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Re: My vision of an airlayerd Pinus mugo from 2008

Post  Vance Wood on Sun Sep 27, 2015 12:04 pm

There is another aspect that I have become aware:  There are natural hormones in the Moss that work to form roots.  I too question the vermiculite survivor mix.

I think a legitimate question to Marie1uk is; how may Pine trees have you air-layered with this mix? How many Mugos?

I certainly do not wish to be argumentative but too often opinion is offered as fact.

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Post  abcd on Sun Sep 27, 2015 1:08 pm

it is possible to know at what season have you made this airlayer , i think it's an important fact

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Post  abcd on Sun Sep 27, 2015 1:09 pm

sorry

I startet airlayering in spring 2008 and could separete him in september 2008.

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Re: My vision of an airlayerd Pinus mugo from 2008

Post  Vance Wood on Sun Sep 27, 2015 1:27 pm

Thank You for that information. You did quite well, most of the books say it takes up to five seasons to air layer a Pine. I credit that to your use of Sphagnum moss.

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Post  M. Frary on Sun Sep 27, 2015 1:45 pm

So only 1 year correct? I imagine Scots can also be layered. Hmmmmmm.

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Re: My vision of an airlayerd Pinus mugo from 2008

Post  Herbert A on Sun Sep 27, 2015 3:33 pm

HI

i airlayered about 25 Pinus Mugo the last 10 years. All trees did well. Yes the Sphagnummoss has natural Hormons so that roots grow well.

To airlayer a Pinus mugo takes from 6 to 18 month. I belongs where the tree grows. If he grows on rocks, it takes about 18 month. If the tree grows in good soil, it takes 6-12 month if the tree is strong and healthy.

@ Frary
I think it is not possible to airlayer a Scots Pine on the trunk. I tryed it 5 times. Never had success. BUT you can airlayer s Scot pine at the roots if you arilayer all the mainroots.

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Re: My vision of an airlayerd Pinus mugo from 2008

Post  giga on Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:48 pm

What a fantastic tree and story! Quick question though how do you handle decandleing and such on a mugo- do you treat it like a black pine, a white pine or something in between?

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