Any ideas for the "S" shape junipers?

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Any ideas for the "S" shape junipers?

Post  Neil Jaeger on Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:58 am

I did this shimpaku juniper in a workshop 2 years ago and only did basic wiring and got it out of a nursery pot. Last year all that was done was some light trimming of the growth that was straight up and down. If you cant tell, the tree goes right branch, then left with 2 back branches then left branch then 2 more back branches then the top. Any ideas welcome.

Im sorry I cannot figure out how to rotate pictures.

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Post  JimLewis on Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:31 am

I turned the first one for you. Hope that helps.

If you are using one of those &^%$ phone cameras it depends on how you hold it.  I don't (and won't) use one so I can't go beyond that, but take some pics with the camera in "landscape" and in both "portrait" positions until you figure it out.  (Better yet, buy a camera and use the accompanying software to edit and crop your photos.)

You might have two trees here.  It's really too tall for the gith of the trunk and you might do better air layering in between bends and trying to get two trees.

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Post  fiona on Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:23 am

And I've rotated your second pic.   Just out of interest how did you upload these?  Did you do it direct from your phone or did you upload them to your computer first?

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Post  Neil Jaeger on Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:58 am

fiona wrote:And I've rotated your second pic.   Just out of interest how did you upload these?  Did you do it direct from your phone or did you upload them to your computer first?

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The pictures were taken from a camera that I just got so I am not to good with it yet. I then up loaded them to computer then used "host an image" browsed for pic hosted it, copied it, pasted it. I haven't posted a pic since the "change" but this used to work. Thank you guys for the help.

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Post  Orion on Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:35 am

Noticed 1 thing in particular. In your first pic. that 1st branch to the L, it may be the way I'm seeing it, but it looks as fat as the trunk. I don't think you'd want that. Just my perspective, but I would want to take it off.
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Post  prestontolbert on Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:52 am

I thought so at first, but if you look it is just a shadow.
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Post  JimLewis on Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:19 am

The pictures were taken from a camera that I just got so I am not to good with it yet. I then up loaded them to computer then used "host an image" browsed for pic hosted it, copied it, pasted it. I haven't posted a pic since the "change" but this used to work. Thank you guys for the help.
That's good news. I assume you have some sort of photo editing or "paint" software. Somewhere in the gazillions of menus these programs have is an option to "Rotate" your picture. You usually have the options to rotate 45 degrees clockwise and 45 degrees counterclockwise and 180 degrees. Once you have found that it is simple and quick.

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Post  Neil Jaeger on Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:42 am

Its funny Jim i did rotate the photos and still came out that way. You are right tho it's the ones i took vertical not landscape that were sideways. I never had to worry about this tho before the update to the tools. Oh and it is just a shadow the branches are in pretty good scale. It would almost make a small 7 tree forest if i laid it on its side.
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Post  Orion on Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:06 pm

Would you consider compressing it into a more elaborate series of bends?
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Post  Neil Jaeger on Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:05 pm

Im not quite sure what you mean. Also im not to sure how much this tree can take its getting close to an inch wide.

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Re: Any ideas for the "S" shape junipers?

Post  Orion on Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:34 am

Just the idea of accentuating the existing curves. They can take some serious bends without a doubt and you'd need to wrap it with raffia or something similar.
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Post  Twisted Trees on Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:33 am

Neil Jaeger wrote:I did this shimpaku juniper in a workshop 2 years ago and only did basic wiring and got it out of a nursery pot. Last year all that was done was some light trimming of the growth that was straight up and down. If you cant tell, the tree goes right branch, then left with 2 back branches then left branch then 2 more back branches then the top. Any ideas welcome. [/url]
Pull the top down and build a crown out of it to help hide some of the bend or chop off what you don't like.
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Post  Billy M. Rhodes on Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:37 am

These S curve Chinese imports are a challenge for all of us. Wrapping with wet raffia and the using wire and clamps to compress the curves might help, as would cutting/airlayering above the first branch and leaning to make a semicascade.
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Re: Any ideas for the "S" shape junipers?

Post  Neil Jaeger on Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:38 am

Thank you so much for you replies. Something major is in the future for this tree an i will post for sure.

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Post  PaulH on Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:17 am

I agree that the best option is to wrap with raffia and compress the bends so that it is about 30% of the present height.
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