Ahura Mazda...a japanese elm

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Ahura Mazda...a japanese elm

Post  -Tony- on Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:42 pm

Hello
Propagated by cuttings and grown by Law (Laurent Darrieux) then by Cram (Sébastien Dalbera) who gave it to me early last year.

Here on June 23, 2012




And now :




Wiring and repotting in a training pot :




Ahura Mazda why this name? It was last winter and we talked with the guys from Kodama art studio walls of Macchu Pichu, pyramids, etc. ... and I do not know why the discussion came on the fact that in these ancient civilization the eagle was present, I was looking on the side of the Persian mythology when I came across the wikipedia of Ahura Mazda, a divinity of Persian mythology gave birth to two precepts are right and wrong, good choice and bad choice.

I had the tree next to me at that time and that's where the idea came to me to a tree on two sides, on the right the right choice, classic and fairly quiet, and left the bad choice, with a tree / low branch above a waterfall and tree / dancer still under construction will come out of the tree.

two branches were grafted to the front and are almost weaned, another to the rear is not ok and was not defoliated.

The another faces :





Have a nice day/night^^

http://www.brundubonsai.fr/boutique-de-vente-de-bonsai/vente-de-jeunes-plants-a-bonsai-en-godet-au-nebari-selectionne/ulmus-davidiana-var-japonica-vente-jeune-plant-bonsai-detail


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Post  davidlpf on Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:54 am

Amazing! what a great development in only one year!

what do you use for feed it? are those small balls osmocote?

Congratulations, and thanks for sharing


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Post  my nellie on Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:30 am

Yes, amazing indeed !

The influence of "Laurent style" is readily recognizable   Very Happy
But the outline is only showing when the tree is defoliated, isn't it?  
Do elms shed their leaves in France? Here in Greece they behave like semi deciduous, not completely shedding.

How long since the cutting was first potted until "Here on June 23, 2012"
I am growing an elm cutting at the moment..., hence my interest


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ELM BURTON STYLE

Post  abcd on Wed Sep 11, 2013 11:52 am

a larger pot will be better
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Post  Todd Ellis on Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:28 pm

I love the look of this tree and have been working with some elm seedlings; twisting trunks to create exaggerated movement. Is the intention of future development such that refinement will require wiring every branch (i.e. tertiary branches). Or will pruning be enough to maintain the "style" once the primary and secondary branches are fixed? Thanks.
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Post  Floris on Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:41 pm

Amazing progress in only one year! The style is wonderful.

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Post  tmmason10 on Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:48 pm

Wow, I need an elm. Looks like such a fast developer, perfect for impatient bonsai hobbyist.

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Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:37 pm

Wow, circles of life !!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahura_Mazda

thank you.
Later.
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Post  Lee Brindley on Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:19 pm

INSANE development in one year! Shocked  That's a very nice, natural deciduous image. Well done.

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Post  cram on Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:42 am

respect my friend ThumbsUp 
never saw something like this before
i think your the best cultivator i ever saw in france

and i love your interpretation of fantastic style....a kind of wiser way ...
.a cool vegetal mood...with the crazyness i love in it also

you ve already got your own style now....
i am sure your future works will be amazing
well done

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Post  -Tony- on Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:11 pm

Thank you alls for the tree. Very Happy 
I fertilize with my osmocote and irrigation are fertilizing irrigation (dosatron) with pH adjusted water.
So the concentration of fertilizers in irrigation water is constant.
There is therefore never stop growing except in winter.
I wiring with foliage, it is more complicated and we must come to read the structure with the leaves, but it's worth it because defoliation stop too much trees growing I think.
Yes my nellie i was heavily influenced by Vev and Law. But also by the style of Min Hsuan Lo, i love this trees.
I dont no for the time, Laurent will answer you i think. Maybe 6 years ?
And here japanese elms (Ulmus davidiana var. japonica) are completely decidious.
Yes Abcd, i think your right for the pot, for the next time.
Todd i think work much by pruning but eventually wiring occasionally, maybe once a year.
But the tree is not finished structure, I think next year it will be.

http://www.brundubonsai.fr/arrosage-des-bonsai-irrigation-petits-arbres


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Post  efishn on Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:44 am

Hello Tony,
I love your tree, it is fantastic. well done !

I'll appreciate if you can broaden a little bit about your irrigation and fertilizing, since my method is the same (this is my first year).

1. do you adjusted the pH of the irrigation water only, or the ph of the soil too ? what is the value of the ph?
2. is it correct that you fertilizing with Osmocote in the soil, in addition you add fertilizer to the irrigation water ?
3. if so, what kind of fertilizer do you use in the water ?

thank you
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Post  -Tony- on Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:30 pm

Hello

I adjusted only the pH of the solution, not the substrate, but as irrigation are very frequent, the pH of the substrate is substantially the same as that of the solution. I adjusted to pH 5.8.
Yes osmocote in surfacing and fertigation. It is a soluble fertilizer balance of 3/2/3. A 15/10/15 to be exact.
The Osmocote 20/14/14 and my acid is an nitric acid. So my final balance is about 3/1/2
http://www.brundubonsai.fr/boutique-de-vente-de-bonsai/vente-de-bonsai-shohin


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Post  efishn on Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:38 pm

-Tony- wrote:Hello

I adjusted only the pH of the solution, not the substrate, but as irrigation are very frequent, the pH of the substrate is substantially the same as that of the solution. I adjusted to pH 5.8.
Yes osmocote in surfacing and fertigation. It is a soluble fertilizer balance of 3/2/3. A 15/10/15 to be exact.
The Osmocote 20/14/14 and my acid is an nitric acid. So my final balance is about 3/1/2

Hi Tony,

Thank you for this explanation. if I may:
the pH of your solution is 5.8. but what is the ph of your regular water ?
(in my case: the solution is 5.8, regular water is ~8 so the final irrigation water is about ~7.5 .)
do you see the same growth rate in your other trees ?

thx

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Post  fredman1 on Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:20 am

Beautiful Beautiful Beautiful...

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Post  -Tony- on Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:34 pm

efishn wrote:
-Tony- wrote:Hello

I adjusted only the pH of the solution, not the substrate, but as irrigation are very frequent, the pH of the substrate is substantially the same as that of the solution. I adjusted to pH 5.8.
Yes osmocote in surfacing and fertigation. It is a soluble fertilizer balance of 3/2/3. A 15/10/15 to be exact.
The Osmocote 20/14/14 and my acid is an nitric acid. So my final balance is about 3/1/2
Hi Tony,

Thank you for this explanation. if I may:
the pH of your solution is 5.8. but what is the ph of your regular water ?
(in my case: the solution is 5.8, regular water is ~8 so the final irrigation water is about ~7.5 .)
do you see the same growth rate in your other trees ?  

thx

Regular water is about 8.3 and my final irrigation water is 5.8.
When i say solution, is the final solution (the daugther solution in french). The mother solution is the mix beetwen acid, fertilizer and a part of water, all in a big bowl.
Yes, same growth rate for all trees, cuttings, seedlings, yamadori, etc...except cuttings or yamadoris without active roots.
http://www.brundubonsai.fr/la-pepiniere


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Post  thomasj on Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:36 pm

I noticed the pic at the beginning of the post where you're showing all the roots and I started shaking inside . I would be in hog heaven with those guys at repotting time. I too have one of these elms, had it for over 20yrs and every repotting time I try and get some good candidates from the roots to make little shohin elms, especially in the semi cascade style. Here's a few that's only a few yrs old.Cool




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Post  efishn on Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:17 pm

Hi Tony,
Sent u private message.

thx
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