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Post  JimLewis on Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:03 pm

Whatzit? I hope to get a relatively quick turnaround on this one. I was told its name a couple of years ago, but my mind is like a sieve . . . I want to say it is a mini Thuja of some ilk.






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Post  Bruce Winter on Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:49 pm

Looks like a dwarf Cryptomeria I used to have.

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Post  Andre Beaurain on Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:02 am

Hello Jim

I agree looks like Cryptomeria..

What about Cryptomeria japonica 'Spiraliter falcata?

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Post  RKatzin on Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:47 pm

This is a Cryptomeria japonica 'Spiraliter'

I think yours may be Tsuga canadensis 'Curly', a dwarf variety of Canadian Hemlock.

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Post  JimLewis on Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:31 pm

Thanks. I'm quite sure it's not a Cryptomeria. I'll go with Tsuga for the time being, tho the foliage is unlike any hemlock I've seen.

Other suggestions appreciated. Iris?

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Post  Russell Coker on Sat Sep 07, 2013 4:32 pm



Actually, I think it's a dwarf hinoki, Chamaecyparis obtusa .... or sawara, Chamaecyparis pisifera....

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Post  JimLewis on Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:49 pm

I have a larger one of each, and I can see no similarities.

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Post  RKatzin on Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:50 pm

I was thinking along the same line, too, Russel. I know I've seen this tree and after considerable browsing, I ended back where we started. Humor me and have a look at Cryptomeria japonica 'Bandai Sugi'. I was viewing an untrimmed tree, but the description sounds right and it is highly favored for bonsai.

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Post  JimLewis on Sat Sep 07, 2013 7:13 pm

No.  Needles too large and too distinct.  

"Needles" (foliage) on this tree (plant) are 1-2mm.  This is about the ultimate magnification I can get out of my camera.



The "tree" (6"):


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Post  Rick36 on Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:20 pm

Jim- just a suggestion - could it possibly be Thujopsis Dolabrata? The close up of the foliage looks remarkably similar. And I have seen a Thuja Plicata that looks a little like those fleshy leaves. Good hunting!

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Post  Russell Coker on Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:04 pm



Awhile back there was a discussion somewhere about these and their development as bonsai in Japan (the Chamaecyparis I'm thinking of). Long thread by a guy studying in Japan, I think he was European, maybe Spanish. There was a giant maple in the thread too, he just kept adding to the thread and never started a new one.... lots of pictures and videos.

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Post  Randy_Davis on Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:15 pm

If I had to venture a guess I'd be putting my money on Cryptomeria. There are hundreds of dwarf forms but that foliage looks alot like my C. japonica "jundi sugi" that has been pot bound for a number of years. That braided foliage is oh so typical of Cryptomeria and the trunk, branch and foliage structure are typical of the dwarf forms.

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Post  M. Frary on Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:10 am

How about dwarf hinoki cypress "Reis". I think I saw one at the place I got a Nana Gracilis.

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Post  0soyoung on Sun Sep 08, 2013 6:20 am

Cryptomeria japonica 'Liam O.' maybe.

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Post  William N. Valavanis on Sun Sep 08, 2013 12:56 pm

Jim, your tree looks very much like a dwarf Chamaecyparis cultivar to me.
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Post  JimLewis on Sun Sep 08, 2013 1:15 pm

I'm going to follow Russell's and Bill's suggestion of Chamaecyparis -- an obtusa cultivar. Or, C. pisifera 'Nana Parslorii' .

Thanks all for the help.  If only my memory were better.  <g>

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