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Re: Vietnam International bonsai show

Post  pjkatich on Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:25 pm

I have enjoyed the photos Jun.

Thanks for taking the time to post them.

From the looks of things, it was a great time.

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Paul

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Re: Vietnam International bonsai show

Post  Guest on Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:48 pm

Our fellow member here in IBC,  My friend Bigbabol won the Ryuga Dragon award. with set of stainless bonsai tools and I heard...a free trip to Indonesia next year.









his winning tree...




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Re: Vietnam International bonsai show

Post  Robert Steven on Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:59 pm

jun wrote:Our fellow member here in IBC,  My friend Bigbabol won the Ryuga Dragon award. with set of stainless bonsai tools and I heard...a free trip to Indonesia next year.









his winning tree...




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Yes, Congratulation !!!
He won the RYUGA - Dragon Award, and the organizer also awarded him free trip to Indonesia next year for our "http://www.internationalbonsaibiennale.com/"

Learn here about the event : http://www.internationalbonsaibiennale.com/

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Re: Vietnam International bonsai show

Post  Guest on Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:15 pm

............
I would like to share My landscape demo.

That's Qui (IBC member)  my interpreter...


Recompose this forest I found outside the convention area...In the garden of the organizer. The trees are all pencil size and still not mature for forest planting and lacks perspective.












The Juniper I found in the for sale section minutes before my demo schedule....





A bit longer flatter tray would be more ok.



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Re: Vietnam International bonsai show

Post  Robert Steven on Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:16 pm

Great work Jun. I like it...Dance 

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Re: Vietnam International bonsai show

Post  Guest on Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:19 pm



Thanks Robert!

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Post  Guest on Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:35 pm

Some more trees...and examples of tropical trees styled as pine based on "Japanese" pinetree principles

one of the most common problem if tropical trees were design based on 1,2,3 branch and followed the pine tree style... No matter how good the material is it will not achieve its full potential.





This is when the designer have a template etched on his mind what a literati should look like...again pine inspired.


...even cascade trees were designed confusingly with 1,2,3 branch...




...We did a tree critique on stage I am just sharing some of the topics we discussed on how the tree were to be improved...Some people were too shock, some openly accept the ideas, mostly the younger generation, But slowly it will sink in. specially right now that the winning trees were the new ones not designed in the template method.

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Re: Vietnam International bonsai show

Post  Robert Steven on Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:39 pm

Hope they are willing to open their heart for new perspective with the key we gave them. They have great potensial to explore...

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Re: Vietnam International bonsai show

Post  Guest on Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:46 pm

Robert Steven wrote:Hope they are willing to open their heart for new perspective with the key we gave them. They have great potensial to explore...
One show at a time Robert, I think they will accept it. The majority of the bonsai people in Vietnam are young generations trying to explore ideas, new ones and creative ones...Like we said, Bonsai is an art. and should NOT be dictated by any rules. That idea when you reiterated it to them live on stage they got the idea and they accept it openly.


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Re: Vietnam International bonsai show

Post  Robert Steven on Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:00 pm

jun wrote:
Robert Steven wrote:Hope they are willing to open their heart for new perspective with the key we gave them. They have great potensial to explore...
One show at a time Robert, I think they will accept it. The majority of the bonsai people in Vietnam are young generations trying to explore ideas, new ones and creative ones...Like we said, Bonsai is an art. and should NOT be dictated by any rules. That idea when you reiterated it to them live on stage they got the idea and they accept it openly.


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I love to see they progress....bounce 

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Re: Vietnam International bonsai show

Post  Arzivenko on Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:19 pm

Hi Jun, looking the pictures i can say this bonsai show was amazing! Congratulations! Can i use your pictures to show them on a brazilian forum?

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Re: Vietnam International bonsai show

Post  xuan le on Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:45 pm

Marco Giai-Coletti wrote:I can't believe the size of the trees on the steps to the entrance...
You have to see some of their Ficus from the northern part of the country

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Re: Vietnam International bonsai show

Post  tmmason10 on Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:56 pm

jun wrote:Our fellow member here in IBC,  My friend Bigbabol won the Ryuga Dragon award. with set of stainless bonsai tools and I heard...a free trip to Indonesia next year.









his winning tree...




regards,
jun  Smile
Hi Jun and Robert,

It was a lovely show, and thank you for sharing another set of photos from a show you guys have attended. I love seeing these events from different parts of the world.

My one question, or request, would be if you could maybe expand on why you chose this particular tree as the best in the show. I'm more curious as to what made you choose this tree, I am not trying to say it is not a worthy tree.

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Re: Vietnam International bonsai show

Post  Robert Steven on Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:13 am

Tom,

This is not The Best In Show (sorry I don't have the photo, do you Jun ?), but this bonsai was selected by myself as the winner of Ryuga Dragon Award (http://ryugabonsaitools.blogspot.com/)

The main mission of Ryuga to present the Ryuga Dragon Award is to promote bonsai art, specifically to encourage creativity in bonsai design. So the selected tree might not be the best, but among others, this bonsai was considered as the best in design creativity, specifically in the present stage of Vietnam bonsai where most of them are still holding the 1-2-3 rules. So this Ryuga Dragon Award is in line with the concept we are promoting to open their mind and heart for new perspective.

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Re: Vietnam International bonsai show

Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:25 am

Jun, Sifu,

looks like you guys are trying to balance a tree more by mass and negative spaces.
Ah, but trees on our side, tend to build domes and considerably smaller negative spaces.
Should be an interesting experience, us showing bushes - chuckle.
I am joking, but listening to you.
Thanks for all the effort.
Khaimraj

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Re: Vietnam International bonsai show

Post  Robert Steven on Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:34 am

Khaimraj Seepersad wrote:Jun, Sifu,

looks like you guys are trying to balance a tree more by mass and negative spaces.
Ah, but trees on our side, tend to build domes and considerably smaller negative spaces.
Should be an interesting experience, us showing bushes - chuckle.
I am joking, but listening to you.
Thanks for all the effort.
Khaimraj  
Khaimraj,

IMHO, in bonsai, we are not merely copy the nature, although nature is the most perfect and best source of inspiration, but when converted into bonsai, as an art, we should give the aesthetic touch to obtain artistic beauty in logical clue of horticulture. BTW, negative space is part of the composition elements, so it is as important as the mass.

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Re: Vietnam International bonsai show

Post  DANGHUNG on Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:18 am

The best in show

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Re: Vietnam International bonsai show

Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:16 pm

Sifu,

does either of your books have a clear explanation of these ideas.
Apologies, some bonsai books cost a great deal, and I am a second hand book specialist.
Thanks.
Later.
Khaimraj

* Does anyone know what type of tree, the best in the show is ?
[ Latin name.]

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Re: Vietnam International bonsai show

Post  Robert Steven on Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:43 pm

Yes, my second book, Mission of Transformation does explains this in very detail, and you can order through www.stonelantern.com

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Re: Vietnam International bonsai show

Post  Guest on Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:24 pm

LLB,
the best in show/ winning tree is a Bluebell. Desmodium. Vietnam has the widest and best varieties of this species. soon it will be their iconic tree.(I think)

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Re: Vietnam International bonsai show

Post  Guest on Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:48 pm

Khaimraj Seepersad wrote:Jun, Sifu,

looks like you guys are trying to balance a tree more by mass and negative spaces.
Ah, but trees on our side, tend to build domes and considerably smaller negative spaces.
Should be an interesting experience, us showing bushes - chuckle.
I am joking, but listening to you.
Thanks for all the effort.
Khaimraj  
LLB,

If you view bonsai as an art. you can translate basic principles of art subjects to bonsai like contrast and balance, negative space against volume/mass. heaviness against lightness , movement against stillness etc. but if somebody threat bonsai as a mere horticulture or gardening, there is no need for him/her to learn art.

even dome tree designs needs negative space and contrast, otherwise it will look more like a shurb and not matured natural tree.

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Vietnam Bonsai...

Post  bayan on Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:48 am

Congrats Sir Jun! The Filipino pride... The New Bonsai Master!cheers
Yes Indeed some of our old Bonsai artist in our locality(Ilocos) always points out basic bonsai practise should always having 1st branch,2nd branch,3rd...I feel lucky to have teachers like you Sir Robert and Jun(Juan).thank you IBC!

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Re: Vietnam International bonsai show

Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:26 am

L.L.B, and Sifu,

you need to remember, that on my side, it is an open field, new trees coming in yearly [ I normally bring in two ] and they have to be understood horticulturally and then as a typical shape. The art part for me comes naturally, as I design my trees as though they were a painting.

However, I have no problems with the 1,2,3 as branching goes, as long as one remembers, that the placements are for VOLUME , otherwise you get ladder trees.
Though I have always enjoyed the Chinese Classical Ink paintings, especially the earlier centuries, my world has no limestone formations, just gentle sugarloaf mounds. We have no igneous features either.
Additionally, even though I use the grow and clip, technique, it will always be gentler.

I have no problems with our gentle landscape, and quietude, I long ago learned to love what exists on this island.

What I am exploring as tree shapes go is what is typical for us, it requires at least 10 drawings to decipher the simplicity, and simple pot shapes, but it does allow the viewer to come away with a sense of peace and joy.
The trees are symbols for rejuvination and health.
So for us, the poster tree would be something along the lines of Saman samanea. The great ancient tree that shades and protects the lonely and lost.
Until.
Khaimraj

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Re: Vietnam International bonsai show

Post  duong lieu on Sat Sep 07, 2013 4:32 pm

Hello IBC.

Please be familiar with June.


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