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Post  Kakejiku Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:21 pm

When I selected the cloths for this particular scroll my Sensei said the following: ?ですね。Blank Desu ne. That is really Blank? What Japanese word do you think it was? Made me very happy to get that kind of report about selecting cloths...

http://www.wallscroll.blogspot.com/2013/07/scroll-3-made-in-japan.html
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Post  stonener Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:41 am

Sensei J-san
This scroll to me adds an otherwise not noticed dimension by most, that which is sound! and is found in my memory.
I have recently discovered and now work this element into my displays as a hidden technique, as a challenge to the viewer.  
I can't, but not hear the loud rhythmic drilling of the hungry woodpecker trying to get to the insects in the tree branch.
I don't mean to complain but a touch of red on the wood peckers head would have been a sheer delight, well for me anyways.
In a black and white painting, I have found that a slit red touch, as an accent goes well in the over all composition.
A "happy dot" if you will...Basketball 
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*maybe chop is enough*

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Post  Kakejiku Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:34 pm

Traditional Sumi-e painting usually does not incorporate color...I asked all paintings by artists for the ABS 2013 Convention to be done in monochrome...

Japanese word for this cloth combination? Any guesses (hint: not wabi sabi)
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Post  Kakejiku Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:18 am

Since no one answered the word would be 渋い Shibui....You are on the right track when your Sensei says that about the selections for your work...
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Post  stonener Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:47 am

Sensei J-san
I am aware of the term Shibui, well in bonsai culture that is, means look of struggle, hanging on to life.
look of hardship, delicate balance between life and death. like 1000 year old brisal cone pines.
Now understand term runs throught other Japanese arts as well, remembering in Koi also...Basketball 
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*enlighted*


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Post  dick benbow Sat Aug 10, 2013 3:04 pm

I'm struggling with understanding the art work. The chop is top right, which if I understand correctly means in a display the scroll would be on the right of the bonsai. yet the woodpecker would be looking out of the frame and away from the subject. Could use some help here.

If I had access to this scroll, I feel a bonsai with a atrong feature of gin and or shari (deadwood) might blend nicely with the idea of a bird that seeks his meals in such a place.
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Post  Kakejiku Sat Aug 10, 2013 7:43 pm

dick benbow wrote:I'm struggling with understanding the art work. The chop is top right, which if I understand correctly means in a display the scroll would be on the right of the bonsai. yet the woodpecker would be looking out of the frame and away from the subject. Could use some help here.
The original question was regarding the cloth selection. Artwork is by a Japanese person living in Germany.

In response to the chop...I have heard several arguments about this, but in the Gaddou books and literature I have read there is no mention of Chop placement on the opposite side compared to the tree....Almost 40% of the displays disregarded this rule. I guess the general attitude is that if the scroll helps tell the story and matches well with the tree...then go ahead and disregard the Hanko rule....Also, I have brought this up in another thread that got deleted I think, but you would not be able to display a bonsai with the direction to the right with almost all calligraphy scrolls since the Hanko is usually placed on the middle left or bottom left of the work...

Some food for thought...

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Post  dick benbow Sat Aug 10, 2013 9:29 pm

thanks, that most certainly helps Smile
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Post  stonener Sun Aug 11, 2013 4:49 am

My Bonsai Master Once told me "know the rules! so you now how to break them" guessing this is the perfect example!...Like a Star @ heaven 
This idea affords some gray area in the ridged art of formal display, can be dangerous if Judges are by the book and purist...Suspect 
However I totally trust the source and will keep this rule breaking possibility in mind for future Toko no ma Displays....Basketball
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Hey Dick!
IMHO Shari is for trunk or root, and jin is branch or top, just saying...Basketball 
but if jined tree top or branches could be seen as repetitious, again gray area.
My choice would be a hollow trunk, sprout, grove or forest styles...Like a Star @ heaven 
places were you would regularly see insect damage and or dead wood,
in your mind and not so much on the bonsai...cyclops 

again just "food for thought"...What a Face


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Post  dick benbow Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:43 pm

thanks for your input, very helpful!
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