Desmodium Sp. (Bluebell) need styling Suggestion
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Desmodium Sp. (Bluebell) need styling Suggestion
Hello IBC, i have this 1st yamadori last august 2012,..but till now i don't come up any idea on how, or what is the best style for this..:?:since most of the shoots come from the top..hope someone suggest or make some simulation for this...
2nd yamadori, since it has a long apex..i decide to cut it down...what is the best for this?
2nd yamadori, since it has a long apex..i decide to cut it down...what is the best for this?
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Re: Desmodium Sp. (Bluebell) need styling Suggestion
nice material, the second tree - needs the remaining branches shortened by at least 50% or more. But not removed entirely. Prune the length to leave several internodes coming off the trunk. This should be done at the same time you cut the trunk. The removal of all the growing ends, shortening the secondary branches will encourage back budding. Then let it grow out, for up to a year, without doing much of anything to it. Fertilize it to encourage vigorous growth. Beginning of next year's growing season, you can decide on a style to apply to it. If you were going to get back budding, by next year the new shoots will have emerged and you should have many new branches, each branch giving you a new design option.
First tree - since I don't grow bluebell, I don't know how well old wood will respond to being "trunk chopped", but I love the character in the bark, and the aged look this tall trunk has. I would encourage vigorous growth for another season, then if you were to do a trunk chop, do it then to see what back budding you would get. Or perhaps you will see a design where you can keep the tall trunk, perhaps keeping minimal foliage, a bluebell version of a literati (bunjin) style. Remember it is not a pine tree, don't try to make it look like a pine, but do consider a style that would allow keeping the nice trunk. Perhaps the new secondaries could be brought down in a weeping style. I believe Jun has done this with some species that are not normally found as weeping trees, and his weeping trees look great.
Jun and or Robert Stevens are the artists who's opinion I would look to on these two trees.
First tree - since I don't grow bluebell, I don't know how well old wood will respond to being "trunk chopped", but I love the character in the bark, and the aged look this tall trunk has. I would encourage vigorous growth for another season, then if you were to do a trunk chop, do it then to see what back budding you would get. Or perhaps you will see a design where you can keep the tall trunk, perhaps keeping minimal foliage, a bluebell version of a literati (bunjin) style. Remember it is not a pine tree, don't try to make it look like a pine, but do consider a style that would allow keeping the nice trunk. Perhaps the new secondaries could be brought down in a weeping style. I believe Jun has done this with some species that are not normally found as weeping trees, and his weeping trees look great.
Jun and or Robert Stevens are the artists who's opinion I would look to on these two trees.
Last edited by Leo Schordje on Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:11 pm; edited 1 time in total
Leo Schordje- Member
Re: Desmodium Sp. (Bluebell) need styling Suggestion
FYI. Blue bell is a very tough species. It can live full sun, partial shade, or even indoor for short period of time. Deadwood specially those that came with the tree upon harvesting is also tough and hard, just one of a very few tropical species for bonsai that can handle deadwood.
We are using more than 3 varieties here in SE asia, the best one can be found in Vietnam with leaves just 2mm diameter, and the next one also from vietnam with leaf size to about half cm is the best when it comes to flowering.
As for the design, yes literati is a give away for the first tree. The second tree is not that good, maybe one sided branch design.
Difficult to give virt now, my right hand is lazy, the left hand doesn't know how to sketch...hehehe, maybe later.
regards,
jun:)
We are using more than 3 varieties here in SE asia, the best one can be found in Vietnam with leaves just 2mm diameter, and the next one also from vietnam with leaf size to about half cm is the best when it comes to flowering.
As for the design, yes literati is a give away for the first tree. The second tree is not that good, maybe one sided branch design.
Difficult to give virt now, my right hand is lazy, the left hand doesn't know how to sketch...hehehe, maybe later.
regards,
jun:)
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