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Scroll II: Made in Japan

Post  Kakejiku on Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:30 pm



This is a painting of a  (杜鵑 とけん Token) Cuckoo
So my last questions on the season of the painting were ignored....So this time I will give the season. In Japan, the Cuckoo is a bird used to signify summer season...So was this framed with that perspective in mind? If so, what trees can be used to display with the painting?

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Re: Scroll II: Made in Japan

Post  dick benbow on Sat Jun 29, 2013 11:54 pm

Pines would have to be ruled out because they are not seasonal. Acer palmatiun, provides lots of lovely shade
in the mountains during summer and might serve the purpose because the leaf color would be a dark green and not the variables it shows during spring and autumn.

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Post  stonener on Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:50 am

WoW! J-san
I Like this one the most! so far.
Awesome use of materials, perfect.
great color and pattern combinations.
nice size!...Basketball 
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would go great with my "Little Gem"
Dwarf Magnolia Grandiflora in bloom


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Post  Leo Schordje on Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:40 pm

Unfortunately, the photos are too small for me to appreciate the scroll. When I open the link to the hosted image it is even smaller. So I will say they look nice, but can't really comment, because could not see detail.

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Post  Kakejiku on Mon Jul 01, 2013 5:19 pm

stonener wrote:WoW! J-san
I Like this one the most! so far.
Awesome use of materials, perfect.
great color and pattern combinations.
nice size!...Basketball 
stonener
would go great with my "Little Gem"
Dwarf Magnolia Grandiflora in bloom

Nice idea...Can you get a bonsai Magnolia Grandiflora to bloom...I heard they rarely bloom when under 3 to 4 feet?

If it does bloom...early summer good choice...

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Post  Kakejiku on Mon Jul 01, 2013 5:45 pm

Leo Schordje wrote:Unfortunately, the photos are too small for me to appreciate the scroll. When I open the link to the hosted image it is even smaller. So I will say they look nice, but can't really comment, because could not see detail.

Schordje様へ

The point of the scroll is to blend into the background and complement the tree while placing it in a season or telling a story... without being the centerpiece....If you want a larger picture to evaluate, then go to my blog at www.wallscroll.blogspot.com
Here is a closeup of the painting.

Here is more background detail on the scroll.
Name in Kanji Name in English Size in Bun Size in Inches Other Information
天 Ten 90 10.74 天 絓 無地 薄茶
上中廻し Ue Chuumawashi 44 5.25 中廻し 絹 柄 赤丸
上一文字 Ue Ichimonji 12 1.43 一文字 金襴 柄 松雲
紙本の幅さ Artwork Width 56 6.68 軸先 軸木 自然塗り
紙本の長さ Artwork Length 203 24.22 掛け紐 土三色
柱 Pillars 5 0.60 風帯幅 3分
下一文字 Shita Ichimonji 8 0.95 風帯すき間
下中廻し Shita Chuumawashi 22 2.62 桐箱幅さ
地 Chi 45 5.37
掛け軸の幅さ Scroll Width 66 7.87
掛け軸の長さ Scroll Length 412 49.15

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Re: Scroll II: Made in Japan

Post  Leo Schordje on Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:25 pm

I like the cuckoo how it is just a couple of brush strokes. Very tasteful. Nice. Thanks for the blog link, I will open the images there when I want a closer look.

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Re: Scroll II: Made in Japan

Post  stonener on Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:33 am

Sensei J-san
to me this is only a suggestion of a bird and not any specific kind.
If I look closely a sparrow comes to mind, because that is the kind I always see.
The feeling I get when viewing is that of open air because of all the  white space,
a quick glimpse upward, chirpy soft tunes, then gone and just memory left behind.
I also feel this shuttle suggestion of a familiar bird could also be used for spring
with most flowering trees, peach, plum, apple, almond or pear.
and if paired with fruiting trees like pomegranate, persimmon or apple even fall
Again I would like to mention that the combination of fabric colors and patterns are exceptional.
IMHO outstanding results speak for them selves...Basketball 
stonener
*none so blind, as those who choose not to see*

P.S. about Dwarf Magnolia! I don't seem to have that problem! free flowering
my tree is about forty years old, container grown, over fed and defoliated yearly.


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Post  dick benbow on Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:11 pm

I think I appreciate most the positioning of the art in relationship to the scroll. So easy to picture this bird working itself down the branches to investigate the bonsai. Around these parts we have a blue jay who raccus calls would be the perfect art subject for something similar.

Appreciate the enlargement. Smile

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Post  Kakejiku on Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:09 am

stonener wrote:Sensei J-san
to me this is only a suggestion of a bird and not any specific kind.
If I look closely a sparrow comes to mind, because that is the kind I always see.
The feeling I get when viewing is that of open air because of all the  white space,
a quick glimpse upward, chirpy soft tunes, then gone and just memory left behind.
I also feel this shuttle suggestion of a familiar bird could also be used for spring
with most flowering trees, peach, plum, apple, almond or pear.
and if paired with fruiting trees like pomegranate, persimmon or apple even fall
Again I would like to mention that the combination of fabric colors and patterns are exceptional.
IMHO outstanding results speak for them selves...Basketball 
stonener
*none so blind, as those who choose not to see*

P.S. about Dwarf Magnolia! I don't seem to have that problem! free flowering
my tree is about forty years old, container grown, over fed and defoliated yearly.

Stonener:

I agree about artwork, I asked artist to be less detailed. Yellow billed Cuckoo is what I see (and what I need for NY), but everyone is free to have their own interpretation.
As the question was posed, is this Summer season....
One (and only one) Japanese display concept is to project ahead...So in Display, if it is summer you try to convey the upcoming Autumn season....Why is that the case....? So if this is a cuckoo and you are using to project the summer season in Springtime, should the bonsai or sanyasou be in the Summer or the Spring?

Why I posed the questions was the concept of cloth selection as it relates to art (Danshoku/Kanshoku)....but that is probably best held in a face to face setting rather than online....might get confusing. But to answer the question, no these are not good cloth selections for placing the subject in summer...but Spring works...

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Post  Kakejiku on Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:11 am

dick benbow wrote:I think I appreciate most the positioning of the art in relationship to the scroll. So easy to picture this bird working itself down the branches to investigate the bonsai. Around these parts we have a blue jay who raccus calls would be the perfect art subject for something similar.

Appreciate the enlargement. Smile

Great idea about the Blue Jay...spread the wealth around as there are many talented sumi-e artists in your neck of the woods.

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Re: Scroll II: Made in Japan

Post  stonener on Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:49 am

J-san Yes!
Season projected forward always! This key rule! I not only apply but freely disseminated as well!
Specific reason why cloths will only work for spring would be over the top to the general viewing public!
Only a "master Craftsmen" Sensei like you would be aware of this extremely refined selection possibility.
I understand desire for perfection and Thank You for your shared knowledge and willingness to teach us!
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Re: Scroll II: Made in Japan

Post  Kakejiku on Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:02 am

stonener wrote:J-san Yes!
I understand desire for perfection and Thank You for your shared knowledge and willingness to teach us!
stonener
*your a gate keeper*

Just like to share concepts I learn from my teachers in Japan or read in my textbooks....

Jonathan

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Re: Scroll II: Made in Japan

Post  stonener on Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:47 pm

Oh ya! Sensei J-san
It's what I count on, your willingness to accurately, traditionally, generously teach!...Like a Star @ heaven 
As you learn, then so do I!, wining Toko Kazri #4 screams proof of it! no words!...Like a Star @ heaven 
Only made possible by our join efforts and your total commitment to excellence...Like a Star @ heaven 
I too was once blind!, but now I see...Basketball 
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*do you Chinese Style?*..Question 

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