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Elm - Big Decision

Post  jimlau on Sun Jun 02, 2013 11:39 pm

i have to decide which way to go with this elm.

1) the taller version and removing that fat side branch, or

2) chopping the trunk 1/3 of the way up and using that thick side branch as the new leader. note that thick branch is bulbous and scarred.

any suggestions?

Front 1



Front 2


Chopped (should it be angled if this choice?)



Close-Up of Branch




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Post  moyogijohn on Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:20 am

I thought i posted a reply didn,t go through... I would save the tall trunk,, chopping the big side branch but keeping the small one under it...if you do that chop i would plant the tree up right as you can.. only my opion.. show us what you do please...take care john

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Post  bonsaisr on Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:43 am

Yes, that side branch is very awkward & may be diseased.
Iris

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Re: Elm - Big Decision

Post  marcus watts on Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:01 am

hi,

dont chop trunk - it then just becomes another chopped bonsai with a big scar - the best features are the nicely forming bark texture and the interesting movement in the barked up areas.

this is a perfect tree to airlayer just below the branch split into a very good twin trunk - both trunks will look mature and have the right proportions to each other - plus it will root quickly. Then you get the lower trunk chop anyway to grow a broom elm from as well.

cheers Marcus

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Post  Walter Pall on Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:28 am

Version 3) Keep both and make it look like a tree instead of like a bonsai. What you call fat lower branch is a secondary trunk and should stay.

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Post  yamasuri on Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:04 am

I would keep the main trunk [but the big scar after "thick branch" removal??] BTW Very interesting suggestion Walter Surprised

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Post  Zach Smith on Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:59 am

I agree with Walter. Either cut will eliminate the unique nature of this tree.

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Post  jimlau on Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:02 pm

Ok, now I have even more choices to pick than I started with. Wink

If I keep both, would I simply treat each equally, as trunks in of themselves (except obviously no branches that would cross the other trunk?

And keep the smaller 1 shorter than the main one? If so, what would I do with the main trunk and branches that would be above the smaller one on the same side? Do I need to keep that side of the main trunk bare?

Thanks.

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Re: Elm - Big Decision

Post  Walter Pall on Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:27 pm

Jim,


don't look at bonsai images for help. Look at real trees. Go out and see what trees in the park look like.

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Post  will baddeley on Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:47 am

I agree with Walter. Air layering or chopping removes the natural character and individuality. The faults in trees make them interesting just like the fat on the meat gives the flavour.

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