japanese holly problem
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japanese holly problem
have noticed two days ago that my japanese holly bonsai leaves started to show brown spots or holes and the edges are cut straight on their own and the flowers dried out ....anyone can help me please asap because it is increasing everyday.
i came from england to egypt two weeks ago...starting from the third day of arrival my plant started flowering and getting healthy..and after a week i used a slow release fertiliser...then i started noticing after a week that the leaves' edges became cut in v shapes and straight lines...and some leaves showed brown holes and others showed black dots from the underside...what's the problem with my bonsai...please need help asap
i came from england to egypt two weeks ago...starting from the third day of arrival my plant started flowering and getting healthy..and after a week i used a slow release fertiliser...then i started noticing after a week that the leaves' edges became cut in v shapes and straight lines...and some leaves showed brown holes and others showed black dots from the underside...what's the problem with my bonsai...please need help asap
nou2236- Member
Japanese Holly
We could use some close-up pictures if possible. I think your mistake was bringing a Japanese holly to Egypt. I don't think it will do well. How long are you going to be there?
Some of your symptoms sound like insect damage, & others sound like a fungus. The flowers dried out because of the unsuitable climate.
Iris
Some of your symptoms sound like insect damage, & others sound like a fungus. The flowers dried out because of the unsuitable climate.
Iris
Last edited by bonsaisr on Sat Jun 22, 2013 4:05 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Additional comment)
bonsaisr- Member
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these are some pictures of the affected leaves i removed this morning and second photo shows that only two leaves were affected from underside
http://www.4shared.com/download/gVJw_HlP/bonsai_2.jpg?tsid=20130622-165509-f9724f7b
http://www.4shared.com/download/3rIBnXSC/bonsai_3.jpg?tsid=20130622-165547-16bbfee0
http://www.4shared.com/download/x6OIcG-j/bonsai_1.jpg?tsid=20130622-165611-b2ba962c
http://www.4shared.com/download/gVJw_HlP/bonsai_2.jpg?tsid=20130622-165509-f9724f7b
http://www.4shared.com/download/3rIBnXSC/bonsai_3.jpg?tsid=20130622-165547-16bbfee0
http://www.4shared.com/download/x6OIcG-j/bonsai_1.jpg?tsid=20130622-165611-b2ba962c
Last edited by nou2236 on Sat Jun 22, 2013 5:56 pm; edited 1 time in total
nou2236- Member
Re: japanese holly problem
i reposted the pics again....and btw i am keeping the bonsai in an air conditioned room all time and in front of a window
nou2236- Member
Re: japanese holly problem
yes it is an indoor japanese holly bonsai
was always kept indoors in england with the heater on all the time
and here it is kept indoors in egypt with the air conditioner on most of the time
was always kept indoors in england with the heater on all the time
and here it is kept indoors in egypt with the air conditioner on most of the time
nou2236- Member
Re: japanese holly problem
Those leaves don't look too bad to me. Maybe they are just old. Leaves don't last forever.
HOWEVER! No holly will survive for long if kept indoors. They are not tropical plants, and need cold weather to survive.
HOWEVER! No holly will survive for long if kept indoors. They are not tropical plants, and need cold weather to survive.
JimLewis- Member
Japanese Holly
Whoa! Which Japanese holly are we talking about? Ilex dimorphophylla is sub tropical, and might qualify as an indoor plant in the winter, but you will kill any plant if you keep it indoors in air-conditioning.
bonsaisr- Member
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the problem is i haven't got other options but to keep it safe indoors in air conditioner in egypt's weather "36 C noon and 24 C at night "
but do u really think guys i don't have a pests or fungal problems from the pictures?
mine is llex crenata
but do u really think guys i don't have a pests or fungal problems from the pictures?
mine is llex crenata
nou2236- Member
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Do you mean you don't have an outdoor option - garden/patio or whatever?nou2236 wrote:the problem is i haven't got other options but to keep it safe indoors in air conditioner
fiona- Member
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yup no garden nor patio...maybe i can put it outside the window somehow but do you think it can tolerate full sun at 36 C up to 38?
nou2236- Member
Japanese Holly
I wish you had left it in England.
Would it be possible to put it in a room that has the air-conditioner turned off most of the time, but near a window? You could put it outside at night. I don't hold out much hope.
Are you sure you have a true air conditioner, with coils? Many people don't realize that an air conditioner also lowers the humidity, which is why it is so bad for plants. If you have an air conditioner that works by evaporation, aka swamp cooler, your tree will be fine.
Iris
Would it be possible to put it in a room that has the air-conditioner turned off most of the time, but near a window? You could put it outside at night. I don't hold out much hope.
Are you sure you have a true air conditioner, with coils? Many people don't realize that an air conditioner also lowers the humidity, which is why it is so bad for plants. If you have an air conditioner that works by evaporation, aka swamp cooler, your tree will be fine.
Iris
bonsaisr- Member
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Thing is llex crenata is a better outside plant than an inside plant. I needs sunlight, but I would try and acclimate it to the outdoors. A transition period.
In other words, don't just put it in full sun after being indoors, little by little, give it more light until it can tolerate the ultraviolet rays, which are intense.
I tink i's looking like it does now is because it's been indoors all it's life.
In other words, don't just put it in full sun after being indoors, little by little, give it more light until it can tolerate the ultraviolet rays, which are intense.
I tink i's looking like it does now is because it's been indoors all it's life.
Gary Swiech- Member
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yeah i know i was thinking about leaving it in England but...i might not be back to England anytime soon that's why i wanted to keep it with me....anyways i started showering the tree leaves every morning in the shower" isolating the soil from water to avoid over watering" to wash off any pests "if there are any" and leaving it outside the window in direct sunlight for max two hrs and then indoors by the window the rest of the day because it is really dry in egypt these days and so hot to keep it outside all day.
it's been 4 days doing this and i noticed the tree has grown baby leaves all over its branches
it's been 4 days doing this and i noticed the tree has grown baby leaves all over its branches
nou2236- Member
Re: japanese holly problem
and yea i can put it in a room without air conditioner...the only purpose i kept it in an air conditioned room since i came here was the high temperature in egypt and the sudden transition from 18 C in england to 34 C which i thought is harsh for the tree.
nou2236- Member
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