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Post  Numa on Fri May 17, 2013 6:07 pm

Hello
I would like to present you a wisteria collected 3 years ago in the garden of my mother.
It is in a great culture dish and is protected from freezing in the winter and your feet in the water in summer.
The photos show the beginning of flowering this year until now, since it is grown as it ca flowers growing each year. On the last picture, we can see the damage on the flowers of this rotten spring (cold and rain).
Should I cut it short after flowering to branching and shaping because since I have, I cut a little anyhow (when it is too large)
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Post  JimLewis on Fri May 17, 2013 7:53 pm

Very pretty. Mine didn't bloom at all this spring (which seems to have lasted all of 20 seconds).

Since these plants are totally worthless as bonsai when the bloom is gone, you can do whatever you want to them at almost any time. If it were mine, I think I'd keep it large and hope for a better spring next year.

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Post  Numa on Fri May 17, 2013 8:05 pm

Hi JIM,
thank you for the compliment and sorry for your.
Spring really too rotten

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Post  sunip on Fri May 17, 2013 9:35 pm

Hello Numa,
Nice potential.
Personally i go by the following;
After flowering till midsummer you can cut back to 3-4 buds leafs and wire if you want.
End july you can cut the climbing shoots but not further then the woody branches,
on the woody parts the flower buds will appear
Late winter you can cut back to 2 buds, there he wil flower.

Why not carve the top branch now to get some taper there?
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Post  sunip on Fri May 17, 2013 9:40 pm

Hello Jim
Did you repot your Wisteria recently?
It seems they flower easier when the tree is root bound in the pot and the roots have problem to get some air.
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Post  abcd on Sat May 18, 2013 9:19 am

hello, if it was my tree, i will cut here ( the trunk is too steep ) , and create a tree ( wysteria is growing very fast in a big pot or in the ground with a lot of chemical fertilizer and water ) , more compact , with more mouvement like the second virtual .

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Post  Numa on Sat May 18, 2013 11:47 am

Hello Sunip
Hello abcd
So I can cut short after flowering and dig the top of the trunk to give a little taper?
I can also guide the branches with wire?
The virtual abcd also pleases me and making a layering I get two trees.
Is there still time for layering a wisteria?
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Post  abcd on Sat May 18, 2013 11:58 am

Hello, the best time for air layering is in April, but with the very bad weather , next year i think , 2 years are necessary .

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Post  Numa on Sat May 18, 2013 12:31 pm

Thank you for the info. Crying or Very sad

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Post  Kev Bailey on Sat May 18, 2013 9:02 pm

I disagree with the "2 years are necessary". Wisteria are one of the fastest to root, in my experience. I've detatched a fully rooted Wisteria layer in as little as 3 months from starting. The roots looked like this

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air layering wysteria

Post  abcd on Sun May 19, 2013 7:31 am

It depend where you are living !!!

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Post  sunip on Sun May 19, 2013 9:59 am

Hello
I think it needs green foliage to grow new roots at the airlayer succesfully.
As the tree is flowering and the green is not developed yet, an airlayer could well be done now i feel.
Best i think when the fresh green is hardened a bit. (There is talk of april till early summer.)
It could be potted in october.
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Post  Numa on Mon May 27, 2013 7:37 pm

update after flowering ....







Many tips and comments desired

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Post  sunip on Tue May 28, 2013 9:53 pm

Hello Numa,
The possibility ABCD is showing is one,
another would be to keep it this hight and chose another top branch,
the iron bar is not necessary in that case.
The branch indicated with the red arrow looks ugly can you change or cut it.
The cut to create a new apex will need some work in the future, Wisteria is not strong with wound healing.
The lower branches need some more girth, let them grow the whole season, but some wiring (careful) now to get some movement in those branches would be a good thing as well.
(btw, i did an air layer on a Wisteria this size, two weeks ago to change the nerbari, it was in full foliage.)
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