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Post  Numa on Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:01 pm

Hello
I acquired this elm "procera" at the end of last summer and it is still quiet in its container until now (a frost-free). It is time for me to start training and try to get the best.
Here are some pictures of his different sides and I hope you can help me choose which is most appropriate for the front as well as the branches to keep and those to remove.
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Post  papymandarin on Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:43 pm

my feeling is that you actually have 2 trees there, a chokkan below and a moyogi in the upper part, i would airlayer just below the first bend half way of the trunk, then you will have 2 trees with coherent and better scaled trunk lines

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Post  Russell Coker on Sun Apr 14, 2013 2:39 pm




My thoughts too. Nice tree!

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Post  Numa on Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:08 pm

Hello
It is indeed an excellent solution and consider that I had not thought of.
But for now I would keep the entire tree and see what is what you can get with him in one piece Very Happy .
Other opinions and advice are welcome.
Big thank you to all.

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Post  moyogijohn on Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:17 am

A very nice tree !! How tall is it the way it is ?? ONLY my opion,,i would keep the whole tree if it were mine.. you have lots of branches so pick one where they are so close togather.. thick ones at the botom going to small going up the tree..you have so many options with branching.. this will be a good tree !!! please show what you do with it.. good luck take care john

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Post  moyogijohn on Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:07 pm

You have not posted any more,, I am curious if you have don anything to your tree yet ??? The first picture would be my front if it were mine.. take care john

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Post  Numa on Sat May 18, 2013 4:41 pm

Hello
Here is the "specimen" always just around the branches with shortened hoping to sprout in the back but maybe I still have shortened more?
The choice of the branches in the autumn shoed with your help I hope.
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Post  moyogijohn on Sun May 19, 2013 12:33 am

NUMA,,You have made a lot of inprovement...i really like this tree ! my opion only,, there is a branch at the botton sticking outto the front,,i would remove it.. also where there are 2 branches really close togather take 1 off,,leave the best one..your tree may look sparch but feeding all of them takes away from the ones you want to keep in the long run.. i would then let it grow to thicken the branches you keep... i hope this may help you have a nice tree with a good trunk... take care john

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Post  dave on Sun May 19, 2013 4:02 am

This is what i see.But still new to bonsai.

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Post  Andre Beaurain on Sun May 19, 2013 7:46 am

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first picture i like!

Post  José Ramón on Thu May 23, 2013 3:13 pm

Nice tree! I have another one. But don´t remove lower branches!

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Post  Guest on Thu May 23, 2013 3:33 pm

Hi Numa

I would take out the two branches pained with black...and there after try to take out the topbranches that has/will become too thick.

I like the classic shape of the tree as it is, with the many branches...but take care...the top will soon become too strong, and leave the lower branches weak behind.

Kind regards Yvonne

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Post  Numa on Fri May 24, 2013 8:40 am

Hello Jose
Hello Yvonne
Thank you for your approach and vision of the tree and it comforts me to keep it around because I prefer as well.
Yvonne thank you for showing me what to remove the base of the trunk and the board for the top of the tree but should I remove entire branches too big or just shorten above a bud (half of the branches).
Is it possible to show this?
Thank you for all

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Post  Guest on Fri May 24, 2013 11:17 am

Hi Numa

It looks to me like theese cuts is possible, after a branch that has leafes...later can you, if it shoots from the trunk remove the intire branch...but not now

The backbranch to the low right looks very straigt and thick, try to cut it a little back.

Make sure the tree stands dense as it is now, all the time...dont make a gap, if a new branch is not already there to take ower....keep all parts of the tree equal strong. Good luck...how tall is it?

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Post  Numa on Fri May 24, 2013 8:12 pm

Hello Yvonne,
A big thank you because this is exactly the information I was hoping.
Well advanced and I can keep my entire tree.
FYI, the size of this tree is 76 cm in height, 58 cm in width and the tree has a diameter of 7 cm (the circumference is 17 cm) at the base.

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