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Help identifying this tree?

Post  PeacefulAres on Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:04 am

Long story short, I came across these weird trees, along the side of an empty road in my neighborhood. At first I thought they were elms, but then I noticed the strange leaf pattern, and then the even stranger samara/fruit thingies. I don't know if it's a native species, but I'd appreciate an ID if anybody has one.

The leaf layout.


The bark


The fruit/seeds


Anything you can come up with would be appreciated.

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Post  Just Mike on Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:54 am

looks like a golden rain tree (Koelreuteria paniculata)

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Post  PeacefulAres on Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:10 pm

Just Mike wrote:looks like a golden rain tree (Koelreuteria paniculata)

Thanks. After a little bit more research, I think this may actually be a Koelreuteria elegans, as the pods/lanterns looks more similar. Although I'm not entirely sure.

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Post  Just Mike on Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:33 pm

you could be right...i had to look up the scientific name for it because i only knew the common name for it...i have one i am trying to do something with, but havnt been able to find out too much information on them as far as bonsai goes...i started a thread awhile back asking if anyone else has experience with them, but nobody had any info...i can tell you this...root pruning is no problem and they seem to be tough little trees...nice bark, but they are a bit brittle...the foliage is going to be an issue as far as getting it to reduce and ramify...

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Post  PeacefulAres on Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:00 pm

Just Mike wrote:you could be right...i had to look up the scientific name for it because i only knew the common name for it...i have one i am trying to do something with, but havnt been able to find out too much information on them as far as bonsai goes...i started a thread awhile back asking if anyone else has experience with them, but nobody had any info...i can tell you this...root pruning is no problem and they seem to be tough little trees...nice bark, but they are a bit brittle...the foliage is going to be an issue as far as getting it to reduce and ramify...


I have to assume that they grow grow very fast. There's a specimen along the side of the road which is about 25 feet tall and very wide. Theses roads have only been hear for a few decades, and I can only assume that these tree invaded the area at some point after the fact. That isn't exactly a lot of time for one of them to reach the size of a large, mature tree.

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Post  Just Mike on Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:39 am

PeacefulAres wrote:
Just Mike wrote:you could be right...i had to look up the scientific name for it because i only knew the common name for it...i have one i am trying to do something with, but havnt been able to find out too much information on them as far as bonsai goes...i started a thread awhile back asking if anyone else has experience with them, but nobody had any info...i can tell you this...root pruning is no problem and they seem to be tough little trees...nice bark, but they are a bit brittle...the foliage is going to be an issue as far as getting it to reduce and ramify...


I have to assume that they grow grow very fast. There's a specimen along the side of the road which is about 25 feet tall and very wide. Theses roads have only been hear for a few decades, and I can only assume that these tree invaded the area at some point after the fact. That isn't exactly a lot of time for one of them to reach the size of a large, mature tree.

they grow extremely fast...

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