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Ciment Fondue?

Post  cmooney58 on Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:34 pm

Doe anyone know as to where I might find ciment fondue? Have heard several names used but can not find a US supplier.

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Re: Ciment Fondue?

Post  JimLewis on Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:06 pm

You don't "find" ciment fondue; you MAKE it. There are recipes here and there on the net.

It's messy, and unless you want to make a LOT of slabs, wasteful since I don't think you can buy the Portland cement in other than very large bags. There may be recipes using some other form of cement, but I'm told they make a less than perfect product.

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Post  Fore on Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:01 pm

cmooney58 wrote:Doe anyone know as to where I might find ciment fondue? Have heard several names used but can not find a US supplier.

This is the same stuff I believe. http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100091767/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=mortar&storeId=10051#.USjnuuvF3tA

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Re: Ciment Fondue?

Post  JimLewis on Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:04 pm

Maybe not. That's a mortar product for laying tile.

Colin Lewis once had a recipe on his site (in England). Not sure what's on his USA site.

However, Google gives me: http://www.kerneosinc.com/cimentfondu.php

and from a Wikipedia article on Sculpting:

Ciment Fondu

Ciment Fondu is a proprietary product made by Kerneos (previously Lafarge Aluminates) for industrial use but widely adopted by sculptors. It is a type of calcium aluminate cement used for constructing moulds or outdoor works. Typically Ciment Fondu needs to be used as a composite material reinforced with fibre glass, building up the mould in series of layers. Fast setting, it achieves its full strength in 24 hours.

The North American contact (see the web page) in in Virginia. Again, it comes in 90+ pound bags, and you need some amount of fiberglass, too.

The NC Arboretum offers classes in building containers in a home-made concoction; I took a class and have the recipe somewhere. As I said, it's a messy process.

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Post  Fore on Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:52 pm

I got the specs from Eric the pot maker, the ANSI numbers are the same. I've tried this mortar and it works great. Just need to apply a waterproof cement over the mortar to seal it.

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Post  marcus watts on Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:55 pm

confirming the above the tile laying product is far better than the old fashioned cement fondue. It is a resin based product, dries quickly and is nowhere near as heavy. Eric did show links to using this for his amazing pots. i guess the book you are refering to must be close to 25 years out of date by now so i'd certainly look to modern materials. i made a 4ft slab and a 3ft one using just under 2 bags.

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Post  Fore on Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:25 pm

I've only made one, that I made too thick lol. Learning to work with a new material to me is great. Next time I'll do it slower, and work out a way to support the bends in the wire mesh from buckling under the wt. of the cement. I've seen a sandbox used, but that seems a bit excessive to me...on the other hand, I haven't come up with a better solution.
Marcus, got picks of yours?

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cement fondue

Post  esteve59 on Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:09 pm

Cement fondue is a type of cement.....I purchased a few bags several years ago from :

http://www.kerneosinc.com/cimentfondu.php

.....UInfortunately I have not used it yet.....I let is sit for a few years and some of it has turned hard....
I recently got it out and am planning to try some slabs etc.....I hope it is still good...

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Post  Fore on Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:38 pm

Colin Lewis has a good write up on making slabs btw.

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Post  Dale Cochoy on Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:39 pm

My old business partner and I made slabs, mountains and scoops from LaFarge Ciment Fondue  ( spelled that way) that we obtained in Cleveland, Ohio.
A local old club member who was a specialist at cement repair used it in dam and runway repairs!
We did this for bonsai containers for a few years. Mix the product with sand and apply over strips of fibergass cloth on a screen form. You can color it with easily available concrete coloring powders.
You can make Land & Water items and slabs are easy. We made reusable molds out of simple household caulking ( shown).
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