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Post  Numa on Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:23 am

hello IBC member's
My wife has fallen under the spell of this "mume" in Noelanders but I have no ideas of the work done on this tree or the time to begin this work.
expected guidance
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Re: Help for beginner

Post  JimLewis on Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:47 pm

Have you already purchased this tree?

There is a good amount of work to do on it.

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Re: Help for beginner

Post  Numa on Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:53 pm


Yes I already possesses this tree and I think the mass effect of work but I do not know where to start and when.
Thank you for your reply
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Re: Help for beginner

Post  sunip on Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:17 pm

Hello Numa,
Your avatar with a satsuki i belief, says you are not totally new to bonsai?
This mume is blossoming, is it bought at this years Noelanders, or do you have it in a greenhouse?
I am not an expert on mume, here some general lines.
When it is new, see if the soil condition is well draining.
Repotting can be done before blossoming, they love a bit lime.
Others prefer repotting between flowering and leaves coming out (depends how quick leaves are coming i guess)
If healthy, serious pruning can be done after the green leaves are in place and wounds heal over more quickly,
after pruning place the tree sheltered for rain, be cautious of fungal diseases.
The tree makes new flowerbuds in july-aug. on the short shoots at the base of the leaves,
the long shoots give energy but do not make flowerbuds.
Let the long shoots grow to at least 8 leafs before backpruning to 2-3 buds.
If pruned in the autumn, backbudding is possible this should be done over three years.
Young shoots are easy to wire.
Cut all shoots at the base of the tree.
The question on styling is another matter,
the nerbari looks ok and there is some nice movement to the trunk and some branches to work with.
The taper can be managed maybe with a good selection of the branches.
And repotting for a few years in a slightly bigger pot for training is maybe a way to go.
I hope another member will post some expertise.
Sunip Wink

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Re: Help for beginner

Post  Numa on Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:45 pm

Thank you for the explanations Sunip
This mume was purchased this year to Noelanders.
I think the cut very short at bud swell to leaf and let it grow new inches then fold to reform my crown;
Later, dig the scar known top of the trunk to make a hollow wooden nebari up.
Numa.
P.S. I am really beginner and this "satsuki" was purchased Ginko Bonsai Center already preformed and I acted like I can study

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Re: Help for beginner

Post  sunip on Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:05 pm

Hello
Do not show your wife!
Only something to start you off, lots of possibilities.
Fine branching is for later.
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Re: Help for beginner

Post  Numa on Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:31 pm

Hi Sunip
Joli virtuel et si le premier est la face avant je pense partir sur cette idee des que les feuilles sortiront.
Grand merci et si tu as d'autres idees de ce genre .... elles sont les bien venue.
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Re: Help for beginner

Post  Numa on Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:33 pm

Hi Sunip
sorry for french
Nice virtual and if the first is from the front I think this idea of the leaves emerge.
Big thank you and if you have other ideas like this .... they are welcome.
Numa
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update after two years

Post  Numa on Mon Jan 12, 2015 4:05 pm

Hello,
We are in the middle of winter ... (not) with similar temperatures in early spring (12 ° C yesterday after-noon).
So here is the result of my prunus mume already in bloom.
I also want to show you the evolution of two years of culture

The opinions and criticisms are welcome.

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Re: Help for beginner

Post  kevin stoeveken on Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:02 pm

it looks like you took a very interesting direction with the branching, using the existing movement in the trunk.

regarding the viewing angle: the 1st 2 pictures look to be your least desirable viewing angles as it accentuates the stump top, while the other angles seem to hide it very nicely (with the 3rd picture being the best angle of the ones shown).

very nice indeed !

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Re: Help for beginner

Post  Numa on Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:19 pm

Thank you for the advice and constructive criticism, I appreciate the eyes of others on my modest trees. ThumbsUp

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Re: Help for beginner

Post  Precarious on Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:15 pm

I would have thought show the shari. The last view shows the shari and I think gives the best angle for the nebari. Third picture shows a very unflattering view of nebari, to me.

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Re: Help for beginner

Post  Numa on Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:01 pm

Hi Precarious
Thank you for taking the trouble to observe and review Surprised

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Re: Help for beginner

Post  JimLewis on Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:11 pm

VERY nice job on your little tree. Personally, I like picture # 1 the best and the last one second best.

Eventually, you will want to carve the shari quite a bit deeper.

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Re: Help for beginner

Post  steveb on Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:17 am

I like the last one the best because the branch movement harmoniously extends the trunk movement. Also, the nebari looks best at this angle. I agree with Jim that the shari should be carved a little deeper.

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Re: Help for beginner

Post  Numa on Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:59 pm

Ok friends after flowering I attack dead wood to broaden and dig deeper.
I agree Steveb that the last photo is the most beautiful angle effect (that's the one I prefer)
Thank you for the constructive notice

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