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the ageing of pots

Post  dick benbow on Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:56 pm

As pots age, they gather patina. Does this come from actual use, meaning being filled with tree and soil. I could understand why a valuable pot would be used just for a show and then returned to a secure storage to avoid damage. Would storing it dry and out of sunlight defeat this ageing process. What conditions actually contribute to the process?

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Post  Loke Emil on Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:34 pm

Hm!

Here's a link to an article by Peter Krebs on said topic. This should answer to your question - unless you are looking for a scientific explanation on the chemical proporties of patina :-)

http://www.bonsaipots.net/index.php?page=patina-on-old-pots

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Post  dick benbow on Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:39 am

interesting! thank-you so much Smile

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Post  Billy M. Rhodes on Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:27 am

I did notice in Japan that valuable pots were stored indoors, out of the weather.

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Post  marcus watts on Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:31 pm

Billy M. Rhodes wrote:I did notice in Japan that valuable pots were stored indoors, out of the weather.

do you think they actually got the patina when they were younger less valuble pots though? through being planted, fertilized, handled etc.

I keep all my pots outside, planted and unplanted bt must admit the planted ones seem to achieve better aging - i think the combination of organic fertilisers, regular watering and actual handling help the process a lot

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Post  Billy M. Rhodes on Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:17 pm

Marcus watts wrote:
Billy M. Rhodes wrote:I did notice in Japan that valuable pots were stored indoors, out of the weather.

do you think they actually got the patina when they were younger less valuable pots though? through being planted, fertilized, handled etc.

I keep all my pots outside, planted and unplanted but must admit the planted ones seem to achieve better aging - i think the combination of organic fertilizers, regular watering and actual handling help the process a lot

Just an observation on my part, I don't know what it means. I also keep all my pots outside. I know some pots, being more porous than others, will even develop mineral stains on the surface, at least from my water.

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Post  Guest on Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:57 am

billy don't know how you do it i cant keep my more expensive pot out side they are in a nice shelf in the house (my wife hates it) but the only pots that are outside are the ones that house trees and the cheap low end pots i use as training pots

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Post  Todd Ellis on Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:05 pm

Dick, great question! Loke's link to Peter Kreb's site was very informative. I am looking at my pot collection in the backyard and wondering where I can find the time to rub each one weekly Very Happy .

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