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Post  Guest on Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:18 am

Hi IBC,


2009



today



today



This is how big it is.


Post it soon with leaves.


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Re: Weeping Literati

Post  Xavier de Lapeyre on Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:36 am

Interesting shape of the trunk and the wiring gave it a new look.
The jinn that's flowing downwards fits with the weeping look you are aiming towards for my part.
The uro just below the apex looks nice and I hope will look nicer with time as it "matures".
The knob gives it a struggling appearence that I see in some trees that I see where I live.

The only thing that's "disturbing" my eyes is the uniformity of the trunk from bottom to top [ just below the new apex ].
But I dont think that you can do much about it right now.
I'm sure when the leaves will come out this will look awsome!

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What pot are you thinking of once it gets into a more mature shape?

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Post  gman on Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:48 am

Hey Jun,
Nice work.... different and very interesting.
Would like to see what it looks like in leaf.
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Post  Guest on Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:03 am

Xavier de Lapeyre wrote:Interesting shape of the trunk and the wiring gave it a new look.
The jinn that's flowing downwards fits with the weeping look you are aiming towards for my part.
The uro just below the apex looks nice and I hope will look nicer with time as it "matures".
The knob gives it a struggling appearence that I see in some trees that I see where I live.

The only thing that's "disturbing" my eyes is the uniformity of the trunk from bottom to top [ just below the new apex ].
But I dont think that you can do much about it right now.
I'm sure when the leaves will come out this will look awsome!

thumbs up

What pot are you thinking of once it gets into a more mature shape?


Thanks Xavier!

This tree is actually twisting from bottom to the top. The trunk/head moved 360 degrees from front back and the back to the front. And I find the "knuckle" like juncture on top created an added feature.

I am still thinking for the proper pot. Maybe a regular circular pot or a slab... but the main concern would be the balancing act the tree would need to make it freestanding.

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Post  Guest on Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:04 am

gman wrote:Hey Jun,
Nice work.... different and very interesting.
Would like to see what it looks like in leaf.
Cheers Graham

Thanks Graham!
I'll post it in a couple of days.

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Post  Smithy on Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:50 am

I love this one Jun , great work.

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Post  abcd on Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:24 pm

This face is the best for me , we don't have a focal point "shark wing", and the movement off the truk is better.

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Re: Weeping Literati

Post  Todd Ellis on Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:27 pm

I love it Jun!!! I think it would look nice in a glazed bunjin pot; sky blue or very deep blue color glaze. It reminds me of the Japanese Plum Festival trees at this link:

https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=5c2bbe8223ddbf8d&id=5C2BBE8223DDBF8D!932

Or Google "Azai Bonbaiten 2010"

How does this species tolerate deadwood along the trunk?

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Post  Just Mike on Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:01 am

deadwood was also the first thing that came to mind for me...but, then i started thinking...that probably the first thing most people are going to think of when trying to get rid of a bulge like that, and there must be a reason Jun hasnt decided to go that route...

i love how you did the weeping limbs...they arent just wired down in an arch, they have movement that gives them a sad look...not "sad" as in the tree is a sad sight...more like tormented, haggled...that kind of sad...very nicely done.

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Post  Todd Ellis on Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:04 am

The image of Edward Scissorshands comes to mind... also, the bulge has an animal image in it - I see an octopus head with eyes...


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Post  Guest on Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:12 am

It is not actually a bulge, (or shark wing) . It is part of the loop on top. Follow the trunk line carefully- Look carefully at that area the second picture, and see how the loop moved, trunk from below it moved up (on the top most) then moved slightly to the left then make a twist to the right before it moved to the left again in a downward movement.


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Post  adam1234 on Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:17 am

For me this tree is so voodoo. I love it Jun. I prefer it without the leaves but let me wait and see.

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Post  Guest on Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:40 am

adam1234 wrote:For me this tree is so voodoo. I love it Jun. I prefer it without the leaves but let me wait and see.

Cheers,
Adam


Thanks Adam! I really find this tree weird myself. This particular species doesn't grow trunk like this. They are just like any other regular huge tropical trees. That is why I am having a hard time thinking for a suitable pot for it's weird character.

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Post  Guest on Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:43 am

Todd Ellis wrote:The image of Edward Scissorshands comes to mind... also, the bulge has an animal image in it - I see an octopus head with eyes...


haha! No Todd, you must be mistaken it from the works of "Jun Scissorhands" hehe.


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Re: Weeping Literati

Post  Todd Ellis on Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:56 am

Indeed, you are Master Scissorhands! ThumbsUp

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Post  adam1234 on Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:59 am

jun wrote:
adam1234 wrote:For me this tree is so voodoo. I love it Jun. I prefer it without the leaves but let me wait and see.

Cheers,
Adam


Thanks Adam! I really find this tree weird myself. This particular species doesn't grow trunk like this. They are just like any other regular huge tropical trees. That is why I am having a hard time thinking for a suitable pot for it's weird character.

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jun Smile

If you feel that way Jun then why not put it in a weird rock. Get a rock like ones that have been eroded by the sea and varying 2 tones and let the colour of the bark guide you. Something like this.



At a slight slant with those dreadlock branches hanging of it. What do you think?

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Re: Weeping Literati

Post  Ferdie * on Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:54 am

That's a very interesting tree you got there Bro, and the size and styling, magnifies the beauty as whole..your really good Very Happy cheers

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Post  Vance Wood on Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:33 pm

I think the tree by itself is magnificent. What I would like to see is a different pot where the planted position of the tree was a bit more toward the center of the pot. I would prefer a round drum style pot.

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Post  Guest on Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:21 pm

Adam,
Thanks for the input!

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jun Smile


Ferdie,
Thank you for the kind words pre!

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jun Smile


Vance,

It was originally planted in a round pot. placed it in this bigger pot for faster development. I think I have to customized a pot for this one.

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jun Smile




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Post  Guest on Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:34 am

Hi IBC...

Which plan would you go, First or second image?
I am in the process of the final design stage for this tree.



This is a huge tree, (1 meter).


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Re: Weeping Literati

Post  Todd Ellis on Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:48 am

Hi Jun,
In your 4th photo the angle shows off a main supporting root for this tree. I think you need to start "there" for proper placement in the container; you need a supporting root to show from the front to give stability to your tree. BTW, your drawings are beautiful! I prefer the image on the left with the shorter foliage.
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Re: Weeping Literati

Post  adam1234 on Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:23 pm

First on the left

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virtual tree

Post  abcd on Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:30 pm

When you cut the branches, let the last bud on the top to have a cascade branche.
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Re: Weeping Literati

Post  Guest on Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:46 pm

Adam and Todd,

thanks!

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Post  Guest on Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:51 pm

abcd wrote:When you cut the branches, let the last bud on the top to have a cascade branche.
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Thanks! But that is not the design I am aiming for. Maybe if it is an ordinary weeping tree in an ordinary trunk your design might work. but this is not the case here. otherwise, will turn out ordinarily ugly. You know why? because everytime you let the new shoots move outward like in your illustration, the foliage will move away from the trunk line, and the compact design will be gone. the unity of the trunk and the branch movement should always go hand in hand in creating a design...if this principle were to be practice, chances are "cookie cutter" designs will not be on the design menu anymore.
...And I already done the cutting and letting the new bud cascade down 4 years ago. the branches are already in the third stage stage of ramification and the aim is to reach more than five stages of ramification in a weeping style.

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