Fertilizer for inorganic soil?

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Post  Guest on Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:34 am

abcd wrote:Sorry, i speak about bacchumus , that's not a fertilizer , but a natural humic acid .
Bachumus ecohemp is not the same product.

The humic acids used in the preparation of the media samples from
operated at the Al horizon (8-10 cm below the first litter)
of soil in a forest south of Lille (Phalempin - vegetation of oaks and
boul'eaux mainly). The mull humus type and the rock is
42 French Association for the Study of Sol - www.afes.fr - 2010
HUMIC ACIDS AND ACTIVITY OF BACTERIA HETEROTROPHIC
ypreslenne clay. After a stay of several days at room temperature,
samples were dried, crushed, 'and sieved. Non humified organic matter
is removed by density separation with the mixture of alcohol and bromoform. The extraction
humic substances is carried out under nitrogen with a solution of pyrophosphate
0.1 M sodium humic acid obtained by acidification to pH 1.0 with
the solution recovered after centrifugation at 12,000 g, were purified by ultracentrifugation
(100000 g), dialysis (cutoff: 10 001 PM, and treatment of resin
Amberlite IR 120 (H + form). After neutralization with sodium hydroxide, are Iyophii'is├ęs.

please post a link to the Bacchumus product?

you posted a text about specific samples that were used in a preparition of humic acids. The link to afes is just a french organisation of the study of soils? I read something about Yperian clay, that i recognise, we have that too here Smile. You copied text of how humic acids are prepared.

But i understand, using that Bacchumus has about the same goal as many other Rootstimulants (like Rhizotonic)

wiki has a good definition of humic acids too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humic_acid

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Post  Guest on Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:48 am

abcd wrote:Sorry, i speak about bacchumus , that's not a fertilizer , but a natural humic acid .
Bachumus ecohemp is not the same product. [/i]

i can only find it as Bachumus, not Bacchumus, here a link in french... this product look is called Bachumus (evolution) croissance, but it says its been replaced by Bachumus Ecohemp, the one I mentioned. In the explanation you also read about foliaire spray too, and about 'acides humiques', thats what you're talking about no? I guess it would be very weird if there would be 2 different products called Bachumus and Bacchumus? It is a product containing a complex of humic acids (only 25%) and many more ingredients that do make it a fertilizer, that acts as a rootstimulant too offcourse.

http://www.alchimiaweb.com/fr/bachumus-evolution-croissance-1l-product-1653.php

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Re: Fertilizer for inorganic soil?

Post  PeacefulAres on Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:10 pm

Well, I feel like I'm going to be watering my plants a lot more in the coming months, and I'm not really sure how that will effect my fertilizing regime. I picked up some bone meal to try on a few plants, to see if a bit for a slower release of the nutrients will be beneficial. I'm also contemplating putting organic material - like pine bark or sifted peat bits - in my substrate to retain more moisture. I'm keeping my plants in full sun because that's what they seem to prefer, and using turface and diatomite(although less so with the diatomite) I'm already having to water twice a day.

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Post  mambo on Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:32 pm

I have been using inorganic soils for some time now. They are cheaper and last much longer than akadama. I stopped using akadama completely after seeing it form huge hard lump in the pot on trees that had only been re-potted 4 years earlier.

I now use a mix of Italian Pumice (20 euros for a 50 litre bag) and volcanic rock 4 euros for a 15 litre bag. The pumice retains water for longer, but needs to be watered in two goes as the first watering does not soak right through. The volcanic rock is more freee draining but retains water less well. I mix in proportions of about 80/20 respectively. As I live in a hot climate, I add about 15% coco fibre to the mix for added water retention.

For the last 8 years I have only used cannabis derived products. as they are organic, cheaper and less messy that the Japanese fertilizers. I have recently switched to the Canna range as they now have a completely organic range (BIO). Their Rhizotonic product does wonders for transplants. Some of the cannabis fertilizers have high nitrogen content for trees that we want to thicken or grow on quickly, and from experience these act like EPO and steroids rolled into one! Last year I collected a yamadori cork oak and in the same growing season it developed 1 metre long shoots all over the tree, which I cut back and it then shot another set of metre long shoots with some branches 2 cm thick!!!

The cannabis fertilizers also have a huge variety of NPK alternatives, as well as zero Nitrogen alternatives so you can really tailor needs individual tree requirements.

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Re: Fertilizer for inorganic soil?

Post  Gary Swiech on Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:02 am

For the last 8 years I have only used cannabis derived products.

What do you mean by cannabis derived products?

Do you mean fertilizers that are usually used to fertilize cannabis? Those places do have a wide assortment of organic and inorganic but fertilizers. Specific fertilizers is what they sell.

I use the granular chicken poop. It's called "Chickity Doo Doo" and is 5-3-2.2.

I spread it on top, around the edges or I'll put ore where I need more growth. I'm not saying it wouldn't burn, because any fertilizer will if given too much, but I would be hard to

over fertilizer with this product.

40lbs for about $12.00 isn't bad either. I fertilize my veggies with it, it's all organic and clean.

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Re: Fertilizer for inorganic soil?

Post  mambo on Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:13 am

Gary Swiech wrote:
For the last 8 years I have only used cannabis derived products.

What do you mean by cannabis derived products?




Yes

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