Look Ma there be Sageretia t.s and they be from cuttings

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Look Ma there be Sageretia t.s and they be from cuttings

Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:53 am

Hello to All,

an update on cuttings taken around 96, and grown in a North facing trough on my patio. All are under 12" [ 31 cm ] in height, and my biggest fear, is the vine never really heals wounds.
They handle morning to lunchtime sun and then late evening light.

Haven't been repotted for about two years, as they were not giving signs of being rootbound.

As I remove from the trough, I replant more cuttings. Hopefully I will in the future have 6 excellent specimens.

Still have to choose Bonsai pots for those that deserve it. Lots more training to come.

Soil is a heavy mix of crushed sifted red earthenware brick and some compost.
Comments yay or nay.
Enjoy,
Khaimraj












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Re: Look Ma there be Sageretia t.s and they be from cuttings

Post  Todd Ellis on Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:53 pm

They are lovely. Have you considered planting them as a grove?

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Re: Look Ma there be Sageretia t.s and they be from cuttings

Post  Jerry Meislik on Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:34 am

Khaimraj,
I like them.
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Post  my nellie on Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:18 am

Todd Ellis wrote:They are lovely. Have you considered planting them as a grove?
Second that, Khaimraj.

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Post  Leo Schordje on Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:35 pm

really nice. I particularly like that all of them have very interesting trunks bases, the first 2 inches or so are particularly nice. Not bad at all from cuttings. Though 15 years in the tropics is like 45 years at my house Wink I like these trees a lot.

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Post  -keith- on Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:34 pm

time well spent they are all great.

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Post  Guest on Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:41 am

Hi Khaimrai

I like your trees very much.....they look natural, like the trees in the front of the scrub, near our house....To me, does your trees look mature now, thin branches in harmony with the trunk....they do not look, as they need developement, but should be kept this way....not at all easy to do, just to maintain, as the trees grow no matter what.

So what is your plan with theese trees?...to me does it look like they have reached the full potential, and from here will they only grow out of harmony....a near compleete restyling comes to my mind.

Kind regards yvonne

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Re: Look Ma there be Sageretia t.s and they be from cuttings

Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:54 pm

Thank you to -

Todd - a grove? perhaps with the next batch, I tend to think in terms of single trees.

Jerry, I am truly honoured that you liked them.

Alexandra, are you not growing these as well. They should easily be able to be ground grown on your side?

Leo, perhaps you need to extend your green house just a bit. This is an easy to grow and cold tolerant vine. There were images of Chinese examples, dormant, leafless and with snow on the branches/branchlets.

Keith, get your victims from Bonsai Boy. Try your hand.

Auntie Yvonne, or if you have grown tired of the formality, Yvonne this if for you.

These cuttings when taken out of the trough bare rooted, normally have very few fine roots and I keep them in the cool for about 3 to 4 weeks and as soon as they show signs of really growing, then into morning sun until 10 a.m. and later half a day of sun, with light shade from 12.p.m. to 3.30 p.m and then evening sun.
Luckily I have a tree with a usable canopy and the shade is dappled.

The containers, you are seeing, are to get the fine root mass back up to standard. They are presently root bound.

This vine also has the ability, especially after fertilizing to regrow on old wood.
So I can keep growing on to trunk thicken and re-capture the shape almost indefinately.

Why not try them, they are able to handle snow, and should do very well in your ficus green house.
They used to be very easily obtained in London, via the Dutch importers from China.

A diagram for you. Stay Well - Khaimraj

[1] Expansion of the trunk.
[2] Regrowth of the branches
[3] Canopy changes


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Re: Look Ma there be Sageretia t.s and they be from cuttings

Post  Guest on Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:24 pm

Hi Khaimraj

Seeing your very nice drawing, can the trees ofcourse become even more mature.....so maybe I should not have called them mature in my reply, but just ballanced between the trunk and the branches....
I like your trees, and I am sure you can make the trees like you want them to be in the future....just remember to enjoy them, when they have a ballanced moment...as a young, or old tree ( I guess, I dont need to remind you about that).
As they will grow out of shape again for a while.
This is what the treematerial I work with do...maybe sagaretia is diffrent, trees with thin branches grow diffrent from other...I have an apple with thin branches, it is very much diffrent and easy to work with, than the regular apples...
Sageretia does hardly stay alive in Denmark....not a tree I would spend time on...sadly, as it has nice leaves.

Kind regards Yvonne

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Post  Bbarker63 on Wed May 15, 2013 7:24 am

Is it true that you can just place cuttings in water to get them to root???

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Re: Look Ma there be Sageretia t.s and they be from cuttings

Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Wed May 15, 2013 10:04 am

Bbarker63.

I am afraid that sageretia cuttings root so easily in soil, I have never tried to root them in water.
Hopefully one of the others will chime in.
Later.
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