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Post  -keith- on Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:45 pm

Howdy y'all ,
i have a beautiful little pot that i have been saving for some time now. i bought a tree and while shipping the pot was broken ...ok, i bought a pot that just happend to have a tree in it Smile . what i am wondering is can this be be repaired. i do not want to glue it or anything,but was wondering if the cracks can be sealed with clay and refired??? i really don't want to throw it away

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Re: broken pot

Post  Brian Van Fleet on Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:44 am

Firing two different states of clay probably won't create a reliable bond. I have had decent luck repairing pots with 5-minute clear epoxy.

It's best to work from the inside and take care not to coat the cracks too heavily, but fit the pieces together, apply epoxy to the inside of the pot along the crack, and wiggle the loose piece just enough to work some of the epoxy in. Start with the bottom piece, and as one section dries, add another back in.

Careful to get the fit right without a lot of movement because grinding pieces too much affects the fit.

Good luck.

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Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:27 am

Keith,

if you prefer a clay fix, seek out the Ceramics folk, you know the moulded stuff. There is a greenware mender that might work. You would be refiring the pot, to 04 or 06, a bit lower than Stoneware/
Best to you.
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Post  JudyB on Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:51 am

I don't know if this will help you, but take a look at this Peter Tea blog post about fixing cracks...

http://peterteabonsai.wordpress.com/2011/10/22/what-a-crack-pot/

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Re: broken pot

Post  Ryan B on Sat Nov 03, 2012 3:48 pm

Keith,
I agree with Brian, youre going to have two different states and colors of clay, no matter what you do. And no matter what you do, the crack will always be visible. The only way to reliably retain some value and beauty in the pot is not to minimize the break, but emphasize it. Read: silver or gold repair. This technique is pretty much tradition in Japan, and the effects on some pieces I've seen really add to the beauty of the pot. The Japanese use a type of laquer for this work, but I've had pretty good results with clear epoxy. You're basically going to take gold or silver dust(you can buy "flake" and make your own with a mortar and pestle, this is cheaper), and mix it with the clear epoxy you're going to use to glue the pieces back together. When it dries and sets, buff it flat and shiny. A bit like a Bonsai pot "grill", gaudy but better than a visible crack. You can also do this with chips, filling them with epoxy and buffing flat.
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Re: broken pot

Post  -keith- on Sun Nov 04, 2012 8:13 pm

thank you for your responses the last option might be my way to go maybe copper dust left to oxidize, the pot is a soft light green so this may blend better...the good thing is the damage is contained on one side so there is still an undamaged front.ill post pics when the operation happens

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Post  Ryan B on Sun Nov 04, 2012 8:22 pm

Keith,
While the operation is simple, it's very hard and messy in practice. I f-Ed up my first two attempts pretty good, so you may want to give it a go on some POS pots before you try repairing one you really like. It wasnt until my fourth or 5th gold repair that I was really happy with the result. All were Chinese antiques.
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Re: broken pot

Post  -keith- on Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:33 am

thanks for the warning ryan ,but i work with resins and epoxies doing fine repair work on fiberglass materials so hearing the epoxy fix made it the obvious choice ,plus the materials will be free Smile

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Post  -keith- on Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:49 am

i figuresd i would take some pics of this one while i had some time, its 3 inches H 3 inches W at the rim .i have 2 questions tho,first would you recomend silver or gold for an astetics point of veiw , second any idea the maker i havent found anything in the referances i know of. thanks a bunch






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Re: broken pot

Post  Ryan B on Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:01 am

Silver, while it will stand out quite clearly, it will be muted and blend better with the glaze. Seems standard for cream colored pots. Never seen this signature before, probably a hobby potter, though not necessarily, I'm constantly finding chops from recognized great potters that I've never seen before!
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Re: broken pot

Post  -keith- on Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:13 am

Seems standard for cream colored pots

its hard to see in the pic ,but the pot is a light green color with pinkish inside ,rim and bottom. i am also interested in the clay it is made out of. it is white and very crystaline

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Re: broken pot

Post  Ryan B on Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:01 am

Probably Shigaraki yaki, or, less likely, Bizen Yaki, both of which use often whitish clays which contain large amounts of quartz.
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