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Post  ray78 on Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:37 am

Hi IBC,

Please help me identify this tree. The vendor said it's a Chinese Sumomo but the pics I see online don't match.

Thanks,
Ray




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Post  Sakaki on Fri Oct 05, 2012 8:31 am

Seems like euonymus japonica to me.

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Post  bonsaisr on Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:59 pm

No, doesn't match the pictures.
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Post  Andre Beaurain on Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:43 pm

Murraya paniculata?

Dont know why the stems are so black, I think you have a scale problem?

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Post  bonsaisr on Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:45 pm

I don't think so. You need to contact a large nursery, bonsai club, or university. You can't do much with it as a bonsai until it is identified, at least by genus.
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Post  ray78 on Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:05 am

Thanks for all inputs. I don't think its Murraya paniculata because I have one and they look different. I'll post a pic comparing the leaves and flowers later.


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Post  Andre Beaurain on Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:24 am

Are those buds on the plant? If so, can we see a pic of the flower?

If you crush the leave, does it smell like anything? Citrus maybe?

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Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:26 am

Ray,

see if this is your plant,

http://www.bonsaiboy.com/catalog/product5030.html

Later.
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Post  jrodriguez on Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:31 pm

Murraya ovatifoliolata, Yellow flower murraya, sometimes misidentified as Aglalia odorata. Crush some leaves. If they expell a citrus smell, it's M. ovatifoliata.

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Post  bonsaisr on Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:24 pm

Bingo! Your plant matches pictures of Aglaia odorata, an accepted name in the Meliaceae. Murraya ovatifoliolata is different.
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Post  ray78 on Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:00 am

Khaimraj,

You're right!

http://www.stuartxchange.org/Sinamomong-sungsong.html

Thanks to everyone. IBC is such a helpful forum. cheers

Ray

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Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:40 pm

Thanks Ray,

but did you crush and smell the leaves as suggested by Jose' ?

If it is truly, Aglalia, I want to thank you for the extra information, especially the ---- 'much-branched' -, the shrub is showing up here and I didn't know if to buy and test one. The much branched part would possibly lead to a very successful bonsai.
Off to get one.
Thanks again.
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Post  ray78 on Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:47 am

Andre,

It's not scale but soot. I bought it from an itinerant vendor and even some leaves are black because of pollution.

Khaimraj,

Yup, I crushed some leaves and it didn't have a citrus smell. Also, the tiny yellow fruit match the pictures on the web.

And it has a lot of branches. Have fun with your new tree!

Thanks,
Ray

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