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Post  landerloos on Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:22 pm

I bought this orchid pot a while ago on E-bay

Someone knows more about this pot. Its signed.
What orchid would fit best and how should it be planted in the pot.

Peter





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Post  Guest on Wed Sep 19, 2012 6:57 am

Hi Peter

Cute little pot ( it looks small ), it could have been interesting to know a little more about it.

Kind regards Yvonne

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Post  landerloos on Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:42 pm

Yvonne Graubaek wrote:Hi Peter

Cute little pot ( it looks small ), it could have been interesting to know a little more about it.

Kind regards Yvonne

Yep Yvonne I would love to know more about this litle pot, who is the maker, what age and so on .

Peter

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Re: Orchid pot

Post  landerloos on Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:58 pm

244 views and no one hase a clue or comment? Rolling Eyes

Well I did order a nice litle japanese orchid for it Wink

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Orchid Pot

Post  bonsaisr on Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:28 am

I don't know anything about the pot's origin, but I can tell you it is designed to hold one of the dwarf cymbidium species that are very popular in China.
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Post  kora on Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:16 am

Hello All:
When posting bonsai pots, it would be really helpful to include measurements-metric would be best, but even the archaic English-inches would help-I have a bunch of tapemeasures, that show both metric and English, highly recommended for lots of tasks,kora

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Re: Orchid pot

Post  Kakejiku on Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:49 am

landerloos wrote:244 views and no one hase a clue or comment? Rolling Eyes



Peter

It is hard to read, and I do not think this is correct....田付 Dadzuke means soldering though...but I do not think that is the second character because the stroke moves away at the bottom...sorry for the non-information.

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Post  Russell Coker on Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:05 pm

bonsaisr wrote:I don't know anything about the pot's origin, but I can tell you it is designed to hold one of the dwarf cymbidium species that are very popular in China.
Iris

These pots are too small for the root systems of terrestrial Cymbidiums. Pots like this are for the smaller epiphytes like Dendrobium moniliforme.

Peter, I've seen these pots before and figured they were old Satsuma or Imari. It's hard to know if the mark is the artist or the manufacturer. I have a knowledgeable friend, I'll ask her.

Keep you posted!

R

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Post  landerloos on Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:41 pm

Thank you all, looking forward hearing from you again Russel.

Russel is quiet right, these pots are way too small for cymbidium even the dwarf type.
I ordered a Neofinetia falcata (bean size).

The pots measurments are: 8cm height 4cm across on the inside toppart and 3,3cm at the bottompart.
I also get a message from a other bonsaiartist, where he told me that the multicoloured ones are rare to find, especially the pink.

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Re: Orchid pot

Post  Russell Coker on Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:59 pm



Hey Peter.

My friend also said Satsuma. I had thought that as this one is more decorated than others I've seen, usually just pale blue and white. Oh, turn of the last century too.

Neofinetia falcata (fu ran) is a good choice. It's been a popular potted plant for years, and has wonderfully scented flowers.

R

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Post  landerloos on Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:25 pm

Russell Coker wrote:

Hey Peter.

My friend also said Satsuma. I had thought that as this one is more decorated than others I've seen, usually just pale blue and white. Oh, turn of the last century too.

Neofinetia falcata (fu ran) is a good choice. It's been a popular potted plant for years, and has wonderfully scented flowers.

R

Thanks Russel, I am a happy man Very Happy

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Post  Leo Schordje on Fri Sep 28, 2012 4:18 am

That is a really nice little pot. Almost too nice to risk the potential for damage from growing something in it. Wink

the Fu Ran orchid, Neofinettia falcata, is always a good choice, as are the more dwarf forms of Dendrobium moniliforme, both have the draw back of blooming only once a year.

For orchids small enough to fit in your pot I would look at species or hybrids from these genera.

Masdevallia, specially hybrids with with these species in their parentage; Masdevallia infracta, veitchiana, floribunda & glandulosa. These species lend floriferousness and ease of culture to their progeny. Masdevallia as a group has a reputation for being a high elevation cloud forest and therefore impossible to grow in a home reputation. These species are from low elevation and will do fine in an under lights, or a windowsill situation. (veitchiana is from high elevation, but has proven itself as being very adaptable) My collection of hybrids from this group came through a brutally hot summer with no leaf scorching. Some of the more alpine species curled up and died on me in the 100 F heat, but my infracta, veitchiana and floribunda hybrids came through without damage. Colors are vivid, flowers for most are small and triangular, and a few have light fragrances. The hybrids can bloom on and off all year. Definitely select a hybrid over a species if you can, the hybrid vigor will give more frequent blooming. Many have lax or somewhat pendant flower stems, some have bolt upright flower stems. The pendant flowers can take advantage height of the pot. If you can buy them in bloom so you know what you are getting.

Another group of orchid species that will do well are from the genera Pleurothallis. These generally have muted colors for their small flowers, and won't conflict with the tree being the focal point. Some are frequent bloomers, some are only once a year. Almost all are miniature to micro-miniatures.

Unrelated to the above, is the orchid group Promenaea, all species in this group make nice accent plants, the flowers are pendant, mostly in shades of white, or yellow with few to many dark markings depending on the example chosen. There are a few hybrids and they are more frequent blooming than the species. I recommend Promenaea Partridge or P. Meadow Gold.

A really neat little gem from Papua New Guinea is Mediocalcar decora. It is a diminutive trailing plant with delightful globe shaped flowers, in orange and yellow. It could nicely trail over the edge of your pot, with leaves that remind one of a trailing sedum, but small.

In the Dendrobium group of orchids, one particularly good choice is Dendrobium cuthbertsonii. It is a true miniature blooming at less than 2 inches tall, with flowers almost as big as the plant. What is amazing, individual flowers will last 6 to 8 months each. It is slow growing, but when one flower lasts 8 months, who can complain. It has a reputation for being touchy, but more recent seed populations available now are easier to grow than the wild imports that were around when most of the culture guide books were written.

I could go on, but these will give you an idea of some of the orchids you could put in that pot. You don't have to stick to the half dozen species used by the Japanese and Chinese. The possibilities are limitless.

Leo

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Re: Orchid pot

Post  Leo Schordje on Fri Sep 28, 2012 4:32 am

When you are visiting Germany, be sure to visit Olaf Gruss, in Wossen or Bosche Popow in Achten, both are commercial orchid firms, and they will have some really interesting species. Valcherotte & Lecoufe are in south central France. And of course in the Netherlands the flower markets do carry orchids, you should be able to find these without too much trouble.


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Re: Orchid pot

Post  landerloos on Fri Sep 28, 2012 6:20 am

Thank you Leo, always on the lookout for orchids Wink

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Re: Orchid pot

Post  landerloos on Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:23 am

I get happy more and more, this is what my mate Neil from the [url=http://europeanbonsai.freeforums.org[/url] found out about this litle pot.

Hope you don't mind,but I took the liberty of contacting the Waiapo site.

The marking reads Tashiro for Tashiro Ichiroji owner/proprietor/artist of Tashiroya.
It is hand painted in Kutani style although Tashiro is not a Kutani kiln artist or affliated with Kutani.


Also this type of ceramic work is known in the trade as "reticulated". Many also call it "openwork".


Good find! This is a Meiji era piece, most likely pre 1891 (McKinley Act required the word Nippon).


Enjoy, Waiapo

Peter

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