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Post  juniperbonsai on Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:44 am

Hello everyone,

I have a little problem with my juniper bonsai. First let me start off by saying that I am new to the bonsai hobby. I keep the juniper indoors all day long in direct sunlight. I water it once every 2-3 days when the soil begins to get dry using tap water from my sink (I water it until it is thoroughly soaked). I also be sure to sprinkle water on the needles. In addition to watering, I also have a humidity tray with pebbles to keep a humidity at a decent level.

Anyways, I have been looking at my juniper closely the past few weeks and have noticed that one side has turned a yellowish color. Strangely enough it is the side of the tree that faces the window. The other side, (the one away from the window), is a healthy green color. I have thought about turning it around so the green side faces the window, but I don't want the other side to become yellow as well so instead I placed it in a nook in my kitchen where there will be less sunlight. I only moved it two feet from its original location. Thanks for your help, it is greatly appreciated.

I have also included pictures as well.

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Re: Juniper Bonsai Yellow/Green

Post  Poink88 on Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:52 am

Welcome!

How long have you had this tree?

Hard to tell from the pics but (sorry) it looks like dead to me.

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Post  juniperbonsai on Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:56 am

Poink88 wrote:Welcome!

How long have you had this tree?

Hard to tell from the pics but (sorry) it looks like dead to me.

Thanks for your quick reply! Like I said before, I am no expert with bonsai tress but I am pretty sure it is not dead. In person there is only a slight yellow color. Perhaps it is because I am using a horrible camera hahaha. I have been meaning to purchase a better one. Smile

I have bought this tree 6 months ago form an internet seller. The juniper tree is 2.5 years old.

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Post  Poink88 on Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:04 am

I hope I am mistaken but just like "fresh" Christmas trees, junipers may stay green for months though they are long dead.

Good luck!

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Post  yamasuri on Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:07 am

I think you should immediately place your juniper outside on shady place for now to slowly get used to full sun. This is outdoor plant and very hardly will survive in the room/indoor. Also watering should be careful better dryer than soaken wet. Do yourself favour and get more basic info reading on this site. You will avoid some frustration and disapointment in bonsai hobby. This is just my 2 cents

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Post  juniperbonsai on Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:24 am

Ok thanks for your replies.

I have looked into keeping my bonsai outdoors, but I live in the northern United States and I am pretty sure it can't survive outside during the winter months. I would hate to adapt it outside only to move it inside a month or two later due to winter. It just seems like unnecessary stress to me, but what do I know hahaha.

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Post  yamasuri on Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:35 am

I might be located in higher hardy zone then you are. You should chose plants recommended for indoor if you afraid of winterizing. I do my selection of trees by looking the hardy regarding my latitude to avoid unnecessary disapointment. All my plants survived winter without problems because I pay attention the hardy zone. Hope this will give you some idea.

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Post  Ryan on Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:35 am

juniperbonsai wrote:Ok thanks for your replies.

I have looked into keeping my bonsai outdoors, but I live in the northern United States and I am pretty sure it can't survive outside during the winter months. I would hate to adapt it outside only to move it inside a month or two later due to winter. It just seems like unnecessary stress to me, but what do I know hahaha.

Where in the U.S.? Junipers can take some pretty cold temperatures.

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Post  juniperbonsai on Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:36 am

Ryan wrote:
juniperbonsai wrote:Ok thanks for your replies.

I have looked into keeping my bonsai outdoors, but I live in the northern United States and I am pretty sure it can't survive outside during the winter months. I would hate to adapt it outside only to move it inside a month or two later due to winter. It just seems like unnecessary stress to me, but what do I know hahaha.

Where in the U.S.? Junipers can take some pretty cold temperatures.

Ohio to be exact. Can junipers tolerate snow?

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Post  yamasuri on Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:40 am

Definitely Juniper love snow...most yamadoris collected in high rocky mountains

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Post  juniperbonsai on Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:41 am

yamasuri wrote:Definitely Juniper love snow...most yamadoris collected in high rocky mountains

Wow, I wouldn't have expected that. I looked into my "zone" and it turns out I am in zone 6a - 6b. I think that is acceptable for Junipers.

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Post  yamasuri on Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:45 am

At zone 6a-b you can have much more trees without extra winter protection. Juniper should be just fine over the winter just under the bench with some snow blown on top.

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Post  juniperbonsai on Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:49 am

yamasuri wrote:At zone 6a-b you can have much more trees without extra winter protection. Juniper should be just fine over the winter just under the bench with some snow blown on top.

Thats great to know! Just a few questions...

Should I keep it outside overnight?
Should I take it inside when it rains?
Will it receive too much sunlight if I keep it outside all day?

Thanks a ton for your help!

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Post  yamasuri on Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:59 am

Outside at all times. With now transformation from "indoor jail" you have to be careful with strong sunshine you have to get the tree used to ...the best is morning sun and slowly extend exposure till you can have it on full sun. If you live in area with heavy rain you might protect tree with plastic cover over the substrat in the pot. Watering for bonsai is one of the criticle factor.

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Post  Poink88 on Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:00 am

Mine are out in full TX sun 100% and they are doing fine.

I hope you do not blame the sun (or moving it out) if this tree doesn't make it. As I said, there is a possibility that it is too late.

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Post  Ryan on Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:01 am

Maybe we should first double check that it is still alive. Is the foliage brittle? Give the trunk a small scratch, what color is it underneath?

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Post  yamasuri on Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:02 am

What the picture show it might be too late but you never know.

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Post  juniperbonsai on Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:04 am

yamasuri wrote:Outside at all times. With now transformation from "indoor jail" you have to be careful with strong sunshine you have to get the tree used to ...the best is morning sun and slowly extend exposure till you can have it on full sun. If you live in area with heavy rain you might protect tree with plastic cover over the substrat in the pot. Watering for bonsai is one of the criticle factor.

Ok so should I start by leaving it out for only a few hours? I have the perfect spot outside so there will not be a ton of direct exposure.

Poink88 wrote:Mine are out in full TX sun 100% and they are doing fine.

I hope you do not blame the sun (or moving it out) if this tree doesn't make it. As I said, there is a possibility that it is too late.

I agree, I just hope that I can improve the living conditions if it is even still alive...

I think it is because when I have increased watering over the past few weeks the tree has slowly been turing a darker green color.

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Post  yamasuri on Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:14 am

""Ok so should I start by leaving it out for only a few hours? I have the perfect spot outside so there will not be a ton of direct exposure.""
Leave it outside 24/7 but limit the sun exposure and slowly extend day by day

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Post  fiona on Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:39 am

Can I very politely suggest that while you are waiting for this juniper to either recover or finally go to the juniper plot in the sky, it might be advatageous to do some bonsai research and find your nearest bonsai club.

A good place to start is with our own tutorial which you can find BY CLICKING HERE. In the last post on that thread you will find some links to the two bonsai sites our members use a lot.

There is also a link in an earlier post on the thread to our book lists.

Good luck with your bonsai journey - you will find it very rewarding.


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Post  juniperbonsai on Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:17 pm

Thanks for your help everyone. I have just placed the juniper outside this morning and am hoping the temperature shock won't kill it. I will be sure to check out local clubs to learn more information. Once again thanks for your help! Very Happy

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Post  JimLewis on Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:18 pm

If it is alive, it will be fine. However, based on those pictures, I suspect it is way too late.

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Post  juniperbonsai on Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:13 am

Ok everyone, I am not sure if my bonsai is living or dead but I decided to take higher quality pictures to help you guys visually distinguish if it is alive or dead. I tried cutting a little into the bark and found that it was moist but not green. Some bristles come off, but for most of them you need to work at it for it to fully come off. Here are the pictures.

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I hope that this helps. Smile

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Post  Ryan on Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:23 am

Sorry, but that guy really looks like a gonner Crying or Very sad

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Post  Poink88 on Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:24 am

The likelihood that it is dead just got bumped up.

Read a bit more, study what (characteristics) makes a good bonsai...then go to Home Depot or Lowe's and look at their 5 gallon junipers. You can get much cheaper and better stock than what you have now. You have time to learn what to do before spring as well! Smile

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