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Post  Rafal Kulesza on Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:51 pm

Second pine from my forest

Do you have some suggestions?
Can you propose pot?

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Re: Pinus silvestris 2

Post  AlainK on Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:36 pm

Cześć Rafal,

Suggestions?

Niema... Embarassed

But it's a challenging tree that looks very healthy and I look forward to what the others will post. This time, I would think twice before cutting a trunk, although the curved one on the left probably needs wiring, too me it's too "regular" at the base compared to the rest.

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Post  GašperG on Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:07 pm

Hi Rafal,

I like both of your trees very much, especially because they leave you with many options (besides very good styling). On this one I would agree with Alain. I think you have two options. Either you incorporate the left branch and bring it closer to other two trunks (with a bend that would not be so curvy but rather "elbowy" or broken), or cut the left cascading branch as you already have a nice triangulary form that is not missing anything.
I don't see the tree as a semi-cascading one.

...but I think you already have thought about these options... Wink

Best...

Gašper

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Post  Rafal Kulesza on Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:30 pm

Hi friends,
I thought about removal this branch but pine would lose this "something" then.

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Re: Pinus silvestris 2

Post  MIKEB on Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:38 pm

dont remove it. that is what makes it different. what caused these pines to get so beat up and gnarley? looks like they had a rough life in their younger days.

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Post  Orion on Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:17 pm

Keep the branch. As Mike said, that is what makes it different.

Keep us posted on it.

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Post  GašperG on Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:23 pm

Rafal Kulesza wrote:Hi friends,
I thought about removal this branch but pine would lose this "something" then.

Yes, it would... Cool

Best...

Gašper

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Re: Pinus silvestris 2

Post  Treedwarfer on Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:55 am

Excellent work on both trees. I'm a little unsure about the long thin branch that comes from the left of apex of the middle tree. I don't think this is necessary and it seems detract from the shape of the left tree. Also, there are a lot of branches between the middle tree and the apex of the right tree which cause some confusion and mask the true shape of the right tree.

It's a difficult tree to find the correct pot for, perhaps this one will need a special pot made for it.

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Post  abcd on Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:00 am

Hello, if with the 1 st tree, do not cut the left branch, with pinus 2, the left branch is too long ( unless you can close this branch with the trunk father ) , but i think your tree is more beautifull without this branch and the long dead wood on the left , cutting long branch on the top off the tree.
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Post  leatherback on Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:01 am

HI,

Very nice tree. As for the discussion on alternative stylings.. I have played a little too. How about shortening the long branch left, and pulling the main branch in a little, towards this idea:


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Re: Pinus silvestris 2

Post  Guest on Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:41 pm

Rafal Kulesza wrote:Second pine from my forest

Do you have some suggestions?
Can you propose pot?

another elegant one... if i look at all the 'options' (including the posted ones and unposted ones), and then look at the original tree again... it makes me smile in your place, because this tree allready (has it). For the next few years i would do 'nothing' and just wait patiently until the crown fills up a little more, and you get more 'weight' from the needle pads. THen decide? it would only be fair to a beautiful tree like that. Dont confuse yourself with 'options', as for right now i mean.

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Post  davids on Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:16 pm

Hi Rafal,

I also quite like the tree as it is now. If anything I don´t like the left branch sitting on the edge of the pot. Maybe finding a nice rock to be inserted just underneath to fill the gap would make a difference, as if the branch would be leaning on it. Thanks for sharing and keep us updated on the progress.

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Re: Pinus silvestris 2

Post  Rafal Kulesza on Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:13 pm

After cutting off old needles

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Post  Todd Ellis on Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:18 pm

I like your tree and hope you keep the left trunk. You might consider changing the pot; perhaps a stone slab pot might work. Another consideration would be to bury the bottom of the left trunk and let the bonsai become a Raft Style... on second thought leave well enough alone Very Happy Lovely tree!

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Re: Pinus silvestris 2

Post  Rafal Kulesza on Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:33 pm

Thank You Todd,
In spring I will put to the new pot. Or I will alter the position bonsai in this pot.
PS. Have you the hints of some pot. Some picture/virt?

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Post  Todd Ellis on Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:18 pm

Look at Erik's blog page. He may have something perfect for your tree. He lives in Slovakia and is very talented.

http://atelierbonsai-element.blogspot.com/2010/09/new-3-pots.html


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Re: Pinus silvestris 2

Post  Rafal Kulesza on Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:38 pm

I know Erik's works.
Your link to blog is damaged. This is his web side:
http://www.atelierbonsai-element.com/en/
He has several interesting plates.

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Post  Todd Ellis on Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:47 pm

Thanks, not sure what happened. I checked the link before sending. I'm glad you know about Erik.

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Re: Pinus silvestris 2

Post  AlainK on Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:46 pm

Cześć,



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Re: Pinus silvestris 2

Post  Rafal Kulesza on Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:19 am

Hi Alain,
I See that this tree intrigues You very much. I think that this well, because the bonsai inspires to the interest.
I like Your virt very much. This can also be beautiful bonsai but I think that, he will not inspire such emotions any more how the original tree;) 

Todd Ellis wrote:Thanks, not sure what happened. I checked the link before sending. I'm glad you know about Erik.
No problem. I once again thank Yuo Todd for the reading of the Eric pots:) 

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Re: Pinus silvestris 2

Post  Vance Wood on Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:30 pm

I think you have another tree that needs to be developed as far as the foliage pads  are concerned but basically left alone as nature created it.  I know it does not fit the classic Japanese model of bonsai design, there is a real drama about the tree no mere mortal could have dreamt up because the drama and story are true and belong to the tree.  To take those elements away would be a mistake.  Yes you could make a really nice informal upright single trunk if you removed part of the tree but then you would only have a very nice informal upright single trunk just like thousands of others existing in the world that most people just walk on by.

I do agree that perhaps a stone slab would be a better home for this tree.

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Re: Pinus silvestris 2

Post  Rafal Kulesza on Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:43 pm

The Japan is the very far country about different culture and different perception of the art and beautiful.
Vance Wood wrote:To take those elements away would be a mistake.  Yes you could make a really nice informal upright single trunk if you removed part of the tree but then you would only have a very nice informal upright single trunk just like thousands of others existing in the world that most people just walk on by.
I agree with You in 100%

I wrote email to Erika the moment ago. I hope that some virt will do with his pot.

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Re: Pinus silvestris 2

Post  Rafal Kulesza on Wed Oct 07, 2015 10:05 pm

Updated. In a pot of Eric.

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Re: Pinus silvestris 2

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Post  0soyoung on Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:45 am

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