Birch Identification
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Re: Birch Identification
Jake,
Its hard to tell from the pics, but you may look into some of the wild cherry/ plum varieties that grow in your area. Prunus serotina grows around my area with similar bark and growth habit.
Todd
Its hard to tell from the pics, but you may look into some of the wild cherry/ plum varieties that grow in your area. Prunus serotina grows around my area with similar bark and growth habit.
Todd
DreadyKGB- Member
Re: Birch Identification
I never even considered anything else, are they good for bonsai?
Jake16- Member
Re: Birch Identification
I'm with Todd here. It's quite difficult to tell but as Russell keeps saying - look at the leaf arrangement. To me that looks like leaves in clusters. Any chance of a clearer pic or two of the leaves, Jake, preferably showing their arrangement up the branches?DreadyKGB wrote:Jake,
Its hard to tell from the pics, but you may look into some of the wild cherry/ plum varieties that grow in your area. Prunus serotina grows around my area with similar bark and growth habit.
Todd
fiona- Member
Re: Birch Identification
well yes and no, it depends what you want to do with it. The leaves are large but can be reduced some, and they seem to flower irregularly( I'm still working on getting mine to flower). But they recover from collection quickly and grow a nice fine root system and also bud back ok but I haven't cut back beyond the lowest green. They don't make for shohin so a larger size is in order. This is just my limited experience with two Prunus Serotina that I have collected.
I guess prunus based on the leaf shape and I can almost make out nodes on the leaf petiole. also it seems to be suffering from a fungal infection on the leaves which is prevalent in prunus.
Todd
I guess prunus based on the leaf shape and I can almost make out nodes on the leaf petiole. also it seems to be suffering from a fungal infection on the leaves which is prevalent in prunus.
Todd
DreadyKGB- Member
Re: Birch Identification
Ok thanks,
Do you mind showing me yours, and also is that infection a problem (as in do not collect from it), and if it isnt how can it be fixed?
Do you mind showing me yours, and also is that infection a problem (as in do not collect from it), and if it isnt how can it be fixed?
Jake16- Member
Re: Birch Identification
Ok I might have to go back and check but in the leaf arrangement pick the newest two leafs look opposite while the back two look alternative. Am I seeing this wrong?
Jake16- Member
Re: Birch Identification
Jake,
The leaf arrangement pic seems to show the leaves as being alternate even the two on the end although the spacing is very short. The fungus is a mostly only a problem of asthetics. This shouldn't be an issue for collecting the tree although the pictures seem to tell me it has had a rough season(drought?, bugs?, fungus?, deer?). Prunus varieties are prone to almost every type attack that can happen, but they manage to keep living(usually). I don't have any pictures of mine at the moment but the one you show seems to be a different species.
Todd
The leaf arrangement pic seems to show the leaves as being alternate even the two on the end although the spacing is very short. The fungus is a mostly only a problem of asthetics. This shouldn't be an issue for collecting the tree although the pictures seem to tell me it has had a rough season(drought?, bugs?, fungus?, deer?). Prunus varieties are prone to almost every type attack that can happen, but they manage to keep living(usually). I don't have any pictures of mine at the moment but the one you show seems to be a different species.
Todd
DreadyKGB- Member
Re: Birch Identification
Oh ok makes sense, yeah we are on the borderline of a drought here so thats probably it. I trying to look it up by leaf and getting weird things and american plum seems pretty close so I will just assume its that.
Jake16- Member
Re: Birch Identification
It's definitely a cherry of some sort. The bark is very cherry - that almost polished appearance with bark flaking in horizontal strips. The clincher is the two little glands on the petiole close to the leaf base.
Good luck with the dig, it'll be tough with the roots entangled with those of the larger tree next to it!
Good luck with the dig, it'll be tough with the roots entangled with those of the larger tree next to it!
Treedwarfer- Member
Re: Birch Identification
PS: The flowers and fruit are the easiest way to tell most cherries apart since leaves can become atypical in adverse conditions.
Treedwarfer- Member
Re: Birch Identification
haha oh theres no way Im digging this tree up the trunk is probably 8 - 9 in across. I was thinking more an air layer next year for a forest planting that I want to do. (originally shohin size but that all depends on leaf reduction of this tree, I also was thinking american elm) Ill have to look at the flowers. Do they come in spring?
Jake16- Member
Re: Birch Identification
Sour Cherry. (P. cerasus)
My property is lousy with them, the bark and more importantly the leaves covered with cherry leaf spot gives it away. The propensity for this tree to develop leaf spot and then spread it to every other sour or pie cherry around it is the reason I have to spray all my cherries 3 times a year....
-Jay
My property is lousy with them, the bark and more importantly the leaves covered with cherry leaf spot gives it away. The propensity for this tree to develop leaf spot and then spread it to every other sour or pie cherry around it is the reason I have to spray all my cherries 3 times a year....
-Jay
Last edited by drgonzo on Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:53 pm; edited 1 time in total
drgonzo- Member
Re: Birch Identification
Jake
I updated my last response, I always get pin and sour cherries mixed up.
-Jay
I updated my last response, I always get pin and sour cherries mixed up.
-Jay
drgonzo- Member
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