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Post  Guest on Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:55 pm

This Blackthorn is one of my favourite trees - I swapped it for a massive Wyche Elm six years ago. I was told at the time, that the tree was collected in Wales and was completely unworked. Over the last five years, I have slowly moved the bottom branch from ahorizontal plane with the use of raffia and guy wires. Last spring, it received it's second wiring. I put it in its present pot this spring.
Although it has been well fed and watered, it hasn't put on any growth at all, this year. I feed with organic seaweed extract, rapeseed cakes and a very dilute solution of phostrogen.
I have had other trees occassionally get "stuck" and have found a total leaf prune kicks starts them again. No such luck with this sloe!

Anyone got any ideas?????


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Post  JimLewis on Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:17 pm

It's a lovely tree.

Since you just repotted this spring and, I assume, into a smaller pot, I'd just baby it until next spring. If you get no growth then, maybe a larger pot is called for??????

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Post  Guest on Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:33 pm

The new pot is very slightly smaller than previous container. Growth has been prolific in recent years.

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Post  mr treevolution on Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:11 pm

Try a diiferent growing position, more light less feed. But babying is the best solution, having repotted it. Older plants can and will kick their heels when disturbed, even if they appear to have been prolific in recent years.
Have you checked the pot for critters?

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Post  Nik Rozman on Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:17 pm

Sorry, I have no clue how to fix your growing problems. But I have an idea for your tree.



With the crown like this the nice curved trunk will be more noticeble.

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Post  Guest on Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:07 pm

Tree is kept in full sun and watered up to twice a day depending on sun and wind etc. No critters as i treat with Provado twice a year and bug free above ground as well. Thanks for virtual but im happy with my styling. Might rotate it slightly to the right when i next repot. I know you Welsh guys have been working with old Blackthorns for a long time,any of you had similar problems?

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Post  Kev Bailey on Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:30 am

When you say it hasn't put on any growth this year, do you mean that it hasn't leafed out, or it isn't extending new growth? If it hasn't leafed out, I'm afraid it is bad news.

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Post  ybonsai on Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:09 am

Nice little blackthorn with nice movement.

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Post  Guest on Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:01 pm

Hi Kevin. The photo of the tree was taken 3 days ago. It hasnt put on any extention growth at all, very good leaf colour though!
Hi Yannick. Movement is good isnt it. you cant really see on the photo but the bark quality is superb, looks like a truffle.

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Post  Kev Bailey on Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:12 pm

Ah in that case, don't worry. Mine stayed reluctant to put on any extension growth for a couple of years after initial potting. Just leafed out and then sat there all summer. This year it flowered strongly, set more fruit than ever and has now put on 6" extension growths all over. It's time for a haircut!

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Post  Guest on Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:00 pm

Here's a close-up of the bark.


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Post  Klaudia & Martin on Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:33 pm

Hallo Will

.....just a sidenote.......
The bark looks as there is a lot algae/moss on it. I personally experienced that a "cleaned/brushed" tree can take a better "breath".......dont really know how to explain that.

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Post  Guest on Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:28 pm

Hi Klaudia and Martin. The green algae on trees is a perfectly natural phenomenon and has absolutely no detrimental effect on trees.I would rather have the algae than risk damaging the delicate bark. The algae seems to come and go anyway.

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Post  Jaco Kriek on Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:32 am

Is the pot made this way or is that some kind of growth on it?


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Post  Guest on Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:05 pm

Hi Jaco. The whitish flecks are glaze on the pot. I make my own pots,winter time. Pots i make dont always come out as i intend . when this one came out of the kiln ithought it suited the rough bark and the white flowers.



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Post  Nik Rozman on Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:54 pm

You make very beutifull pots Will. thumbs up

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Post  Guest on Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:04 pm

kind words Nik. Have been making pots for about a year now. As i was saying theyre a bit hit and miss. There are a lot of factors involved, but ill just keep on experimenting !

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Post  Jaco Kriek on Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:44 am

The whitish flecks are glaze on the pot. I make my own pots,winter time. Pots i make dont always come out as i intend . when this one came out of the kiln ithought it suited the rough bark and the white flowers.

Now I see the pot texture. I agree, it complements the bark of the tree.

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Post  Guest on Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:58 pm

Its good to know when someone else agrees with your judgement. Makes you feel your moving in the right direction. Here is a shot of the back.


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Post  Jerry Meislik on Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:34 pm

Love the pot and love the bark. I think they work quite well together.
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Post  Guest on Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:27 pm

Thanks Jerry, as i say a pure stroke of luck ! Id still like to know if anyones got an idea why my tree hasnt extended this year ?

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Post  Guest on Tue Dec 08, 2009 1:57 pm

Martin Sweeney asked for pics of this tree without leaves

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Post  Ian Warhurst on Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:52 pm

Beautiful tree Will. I have the same problem with my Yews when I repot them, they almost seem to shut down for a season or two before they re-establish themselves.

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Post  Mario Stefano on Tue Dec 08, 2009 3:31 pm

Great trees, everything on it is made beautiful. I love these creations, and nothing should change. If I understood well, the tree slowly progressing!?!? I think this is normal because it's kind of slow and creates such beautiful creations ... I believe that there is no place concerns!

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