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Post  waway on Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:47 am

fionnghal, yes your right i was planning on feeding twice a week and im watering my plants twice a day everyday.

kev, maybe i will change my plan regarding feeding to fortnightly alternating seaweed and miracle gro. may i ask when would i start feeding newly repotted trees?

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Post  bonsaistud on Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:21 pm

I think Jim said it very well in his post that starts with "...Lots of blather is written about fertilizing bonsai...".

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Post  Jay Gaydosh on Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:32 pm

I may be wrong, but everything I've read says to not fertilize newly repotted trees until you see new growth. Fertilizing a newly repotted trees can increase the stress on the tree originally caused by the repotting process. New growth is a sign that the tree has overcome the stress of repotting.

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Post  Garykk on Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:02 pm

One has to be careful with any interference with osmotic pressure of xylem sap in new root tips.

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No Need for Seaweed here.....

Post  gman on Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:29 am

Hi Waway.
No need for seaweed fertilizer here; for my conifers (such as mountain hemlocks) I use Seasoil (a product made from decomposed fish plant waste and wood chips) and perlite…… the colour on them is a dark blueish green.
I also know of folks in the general area that use a lot of osmocote and other such ferts on their trees and it doesn’t appear to harm them.

But like the majority of folks have said..... what fertilizer you use is dependant on many factors and your own experimentation.

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Post  JimLewis on Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:29 am

A couple of things (again):

Your trees DO NOT CARE how they get their NPK and trace elements. They just want them. I used to fertilize weekly. Now, I fertilize sporadically. My trees seem happy either way.

If you're using 100% inorganic soil, you probably will do better using organic fertilizer (fish emulsion, recommended). It adheres to the inorganic particles. (Miracle Gro -- an inorganic fertilizer -- will flow straight through.) The organic fertilizer will stick around until it breaks down to components the tree can use. You will have to occasionally add trace elements.

If you are using most any other mix of organic and inorganics in soil, you probably will be better off with Miracle Gro (or equivalent) because it is available to the tree immediately, unlike organic fertilizers. The inorganic ferilizer tends to adhere to the organic material in your soil, so even if you only have 20% organics, it'll hold it in until the roots had drink their fill.

One other thing: You CAN (and probably should) fertilize after a repot, no matter how much root work you did. Your tree has been badly stressed. It's probably longing for some sustenance. It will NOT hurt the roots. I think if Brent were still hanging around here, he'd say pretty much the same thing.

Oh, Kev . . . we don't use fortnight very often (like almost never) on this side of the pond.
study <--- some of us may have had to look it up.

Every two weeks is fine, though. lol!

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Post  fiona on Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:19 am

JimLewis wrote: Oh, Kev . . . we don't use fortnight very often (like almost never) on this side of the pond.
study <--- some of us may have had to look it up. Every two weeks is fine, though. lol!
Ahhhh! Hey Jim, this is my kinda pedantry - but thanks because I now know something I didn't know before. I hadn't realised this was a Britword not in common usage outwith (Scotticism meaning "outside of") the UK and some of our other former colonies! Laughing As I said in another post, we are two nations divided by a common language!

Interestingly, when I googled it, it gave "biweekly" as an alternative and I'm now wondering if us Brits confused Waway (the original poster) into thinking we meant twice a week - hence his/her own proposed feeding regime. So, Waway, my apologies on behalf of all us cross-ponders who contributed to your question using the word fortnightly. We actually meant, as Jim rightly says, every two weeks.

Incidentally Jim, I tend to subscribe to your view that regular (regimented?) feeding is not always necessary. I don't believe my trees will "starve" if they are ignored feed-wise for a week or even a month or two. If I were being cynical, I would wonder how our plants - bonsai and garden - survived before the arrival of miracle-cure or the host of other "essential" plant feeds. And don't get me started on the products that serve up the same old recipes but stick a few bucks on the price just because they call it "Bonsai Food". In the meantime, I forgot to feed last week and possibly the week before when I was away, but I'm not rushing out to arrange an air drop of plant food parcels.

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Post  waway on Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:57 pm

no need for apologies fionnghal this has been a very good learning experience for me as i have so little knowledge in horticulture in general. and now im beginning to understand the basics of this hobby which is so far very fun for me. i know that their are still a lot of things to learn from now on. and as i progress in this hobby i know things will sometimes get complicated and sometimes "hot" with the different opinions and views from everybody's experience but i am preparing myself to pick up every bit of useful information that i could get. and i hope you will excuse me if i will ask any naive questions in the future. and thank you guys for your help on this one, its really a big help for me being a beginner and my trees (saving them from utter destruction of overfeeding Embarassed )

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