juniperus thurifera yamadori

Mr. Wood,

Alright! Although I don't agree with you, I respect your opinion. It will be very interesting if you could show us examples of your work. I am sure we can all benefit from your experience.

Kind regards,

jose luis

Vance,

Yes, Kimura has taken long, lanky and almost worthless pieces of material and shortened the trunks to turn them into masterpieces. We've all seen the pictures, and some of us have seen the trees. But I also think he has done some that are not so great, and has changed some bonsai for the sake of change and to put his "stamp" on them when they should have been left alone. I've probably crossed some line here, kinda like questioning the pope or something, and I'll be struck by lightening .

But I think the consensus here is that this little tree simply doesn't call for such a procedure, and in fact, that procedure would actually diminish the charm of the tree.
Remember what I said earlier about opinions? As far as I'm concerned, you and Rob are welcome to yours, even if I personally don't agree. Please don't take this to be inflamatory, that's not my intent.

And Yannick, back to your pot question I hope, I happen to like this tree in the pot it is in. Maybe something a little lighter, something with less lip. I bet Klaudia could come up with something perfect for it. I doubt you'd ever "find" the perfect pot sitting on a shelf somewhere but rather you need someone really talented like her to make one for you.

Russell

Yes, Kimura has taken long, lanky and almost worthless pieces of material and shortened the trunks to turn them into masterpieces. We've all seen the pictures, and some of us have seen the trees. But I also think he has done some that are not so great, and has changed some bonsai for the sake of change and to put his "stamp" on them when they should have been left alone. I've probably crossed some line here, kinda like questioning the pope or something, and I'll be struck by lightening

For one, I agree -- wholeheartedly. I don't care for his styled by Mixmaster trees. We are in a minority in these days of porcupine trees.

Here a couple of quick and dirty virtuals to show possible direction.

Some good ideas, Walter. Oh, and Happy Birthday!

Here are two more...

I have to say that I am surprised by how good the tree appears in John's first pot choice. I never would have thought of something as formal and angular. I think it's my favorite of the bunch.

G'day Yannick...

That is a wonderful Juniper you have...

Now...IMAFMHO (InMyAncientFeebleMindedHumbleOpinion)…

Forget about "...the 'default' by the rules of bonsai..." when it comes to Mother Natures works of art.

And, if you were to "...graft roots on the tree just under the big part..." it would look more man made than Mother Natures creation.

Finally, I really like Walters use of the rock...much better than "...lowering the trunk..." or "...adding roots...".

So, Yannick, this Juniper is your bonsai, and you need to do what works best for you.

Remember that I said...IMAFMHO (InMyAncientFeebleMindedHumbleOpinion)…

Pat

Good work John! I would name the tree Yasuo Ryu, peaceful dragon. To me adding a rock draws attention to the weak dynamics of the tree. This tree does not need a crutch, It supports itself very well. Pot shape fine....pass on the scrambled egg kiln explosion look.

__gary

Here is the Thurifera as it is Today:D

What do you all think?
the pot is still not right,in future it will be in a brown red oval pot i think.
Still much work on the foilage.

Greetings,
Yannick

An absolutely stunning Juniper Yannick. Excellent work and perfect as it is. As you well know.

ybonsai wrote:Thanks everyone for the opinions and compliments.
I like this kind of discussing:)

Trees will always have different opinions of how it has to be for people.
And i think my idea and that's keeping the tree like this,in the past i allso considered to make the tree smaller.
I like the tree how it is right now,the movement is very elegant and it tells a story about the tree.

What direction of pot would you all go for?
Would a red brown round pot in the style of a nanban(antique) be nice or not?

Greetings,
Yannick

Hi Yannick,
Perhaps you might consider a nice, reddish brown, unglazed Chinese Lotus oval or round? Beautiful tree!!
Regards, Todd

@ Will: Thanks for the compliment on the thurifera

@ Todd:Thanks you, maybe i will consider it, round would be nice to, we will see in future:D

Greetings,
Yannick

I think that´s not a thurifera, its a juniperus sabina.

Normally it is Juniperus Sabina thurifera, it's a Sabina specie.

Greetings,
Yannick

Last week i gave some attention to this tree.
Cleaned the deadwood and trunk.
Cleaned the foliage to let more light and air in it for new growth.
Wired and styled it.

Think that this tree did progress rather well.

Now the tree needs to grow and backbud and has to get a little fuller.
And in future a better pot.

Best regards,
Yannick

I want this tree sooooo much.

will baddeley wrote:I want this tree sooooo much.

Get in line, boy.

Russell Coker wrote:

will baddeley wrote:I want this tree sooooo much.

Get in line, boy.

Speedo's on, coated in Goose fat and heading for the Channel....
Race ya....

An alternative , to remove the reverse taper :
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Beautiful work! Great to see the progression from the raw material. I kind of like the idea of reducing the mass of deadwood a little (as shown in the last photo/virt), though I don't know if that would weaken the structure too much.

Chris

I am surprised by all the concern over the reverse taper... the tree is great as it is. It is not unusual for ancient old junipers to have reverse taper, as the deadwood near the ground rots away faster.

I aggre with you. Really.

For me this is no reverse taper.

This makes the tree more special,if i would remove it the tree wouldn't be the same and wouldn't tell the same story.

Even some of the best trees over the world have it.
For example :

I agree , the tree is beautiful with reverse taper , my proposition is an other solution , the form is more classical , the tree less mysterious.